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Unread 03-25-2013, 04:46 PM   #21
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Edgar, I read somewhere that there has been a long standing stock issue with the reproduction Parkers. That there has been a tendency for breaking at the wrist.
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You probably read it here, in an old thread. There is a good argument that the old stockmakers knew there was more to look for in a blank than figure. If you looks through high grade blanks, you will see that they are sawn such that the grain straightens out significantly at, or slightly behind the wrist. That's why the blanks are often sanded on the upper and lower surfaces, in addition to the sides. There may be as much as an inch extra material on a blank, giving the stockmaker the greatest latitude in choosing where the final piece comes from within the envelope of the blank size.
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Nice shot with that hammer Edgar,you hit the nail right on the head!
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Edgar,
I have had the stock on my VH16 repaired a couple of times. Grouse hunting in the Appa;achians will take its toll.
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Harold, I don't know what your Parker looks like but that is a good looking setter.
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If you come to Maine Harold, you'd better bring some glue. You're tough on that old girl.
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Apparantly Parker Bros. had the experience and reputation to uphold in the area of stocks breaking at the wrist. The Parker gun is generally noted for its very desirable and classic 'thin wrist' and because of this, coupled with nicely figured wood on the graded guns, (gererally Grade 3 and higher) the necessity of the 'invention' of the hickory reinforcing rod became paramount and was possibly (or probably) an oversight on the part of those who designed/developed/commissioned the "Parker Reproduction by Winchester".
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I bet if you took the stock off alot of old Parkers we would find some old repairs and/or cracks in the wood. Hell, they are 100 years old and I think the wood just becomes brittle. Had the stock off a SW16 to take care of a safety issue and found a crack that would probably have broken with a good fall, so we pre-emptively accraglassed it.
E-setter, yes, Betty is a little sweetheart. Has an unbelievable nose, will back forever, retrieves and loves me to death. Tried to breed her in Feb., but was unsuccessful. BTW, I live in Wheeling now but lived the majority of my life in Belmont County, Oh and do most of my local hunting in Oh where I still own 170 acres. It is an absolute shame what has happened to the Ohio grouse population. I talk to several Cincinati grouse hunters each year in the UP.
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IMHO, the Repros are getting a bad rap for breaking at the wrist that has been propagated by an uninformed few so often that the the peanut gallery have come to believe it as fact -- and now they are repeating it. The facts are the Repros that have broken at the wrist have broken accidentally by a variety of catostrophic experiences such as by dropping, taking a fall with the gun in hand and as we learned in this thread -- by dog, etc.
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She looks great and at one time we had unbelievable grouse hunting in Ohio, but no more. Now it is Wisconsin for me. I'll bet I know the guys you talk to in the UP.


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