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Unread 08-15-2012, 09:49 AM   #11
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Dave,

I do not think it is a pre 1912 gun. That is because of the use of the low profile safety and short top lever. Which was not started to be used until later than that.
James P. Hayes cost cutting design was thought up in 1911.
What I think this to be is an attempt by Remington to revive Hayes' design later on in order to cut costs for them.

Until I get the S/N on the gun, we cannot be sure of when it was made. That will be key.
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John D., in 1998, the 3200 One of 1000 pair, trap and skeet, serial #1 was in the original green plastic case, stored away in the archives. I don't know whether you are referring to before or after 1998. The serial numbers are not identical as I recall. The trap gun has a "T" in the serial number and the skeet gun has an "S". I may be wrong about that. I do not own one so can't take a look.
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This would have been in the late 70's or early 80's. I don't remember if it was the #1 or #2 set. I have the #3 set which my Dad bought as a Remington Director
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As I said, the #1 set was in the Archives in 1998. It may still be.
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Thanks, Brian. Good story and photos. JF
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That latch looks a lot like the roller latch on my LC Smith . If you have John Houchins ' book on pages 236 and 407. Only the roller seems to be reverced
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That safety "button" is the post-1917 design. Even well after 1917 the Trojans were still being manufactured with the pre-1917 button. I have a 1923 Trojan 16 ga. with the pre-1917 safety button yet it also has the rib extension which had been all but phased out on Trojans quite a lot earlier than mine.
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The wood in the forend has some figure which would lead me to believe it is a late Remington gun. The wood on the Trojan skeet was very nice. I also suspect it was one of the expermential guns listed in TPS.

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Brian, I just looked at my pictures of the Trojan Skeet we inspected in 1998. It is a real Skeet with single trigger, straight grip, fancy wood, and beavertail. Did you photograph the skeet gun as well as the Trojan in your post?
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Yes. I did take some photos of the Trojan Skeet gun when I inspected the Trojan Prototype at Remington.
I handled and broke down the skeet gun.
I will pull out the few photos I took and post them shortly.
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