NICE DOGS-LEFEVER EE

[J. A. EARLY]

It is a shame to have a gun that one never shoots. I bought this EE Lefever 12 gauge over thirty years ago and have never shot it. It was loose on face and the ejectors would eject one shell and if you stood there for a minute would fire the other one out. It was rough with a cut stock and vice marks on the barrels and hammer marks on the beautiful engraving. It spent over a year in the hospital and I just got it back. I hope to shoot it this fall at doves and at the least it is respectable now. Steel barrels.

Any thoughts on who engraved it?

[charlie cleveland]

that looks like e grade engraving onlefevers in the 10000 serial no range...charlie

[J. A. EARLY]

Originally Posted by charlie cleveland

that looks like e grade engraving onlefevers in the 10000 serial no range...charlie

A little higher Charlie. Mfg. 1907

[Double Lab]

Nice gun Jerry. You might want to post this on the Lefever site https://www.lefevercollectors.com/di...r-discussions/.

Not sure who the engraver is but someone there will know who was engraving during that time period.

Lefevers are great guns and need to be shot to be appreciated. I'm sure the doves are in great danger come this fall but why not introduce her to Mr. Tom this spring?

[Bill Murphy]

Charlie, Lefever E grades in the 10,000 range have no dogs or other interesting embellishment. The dogs came later. There are a flock of E grades in my collection, and all of them are early guns without dogs. One of my treasures is an E grade 16, the first hammerless top lever 16 made, according to the LACA bank of information.

[Dean Romig]

Originally Posted by Daryl Corona

Not sure who the engraver is but someone there will know who was engraving during that time period.

The eyes look like Loy's but the rest of the dogs aren't quite what I would call his. Maybe an understudy of his?





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[Bruce Hering]

Here are the dogs on my EE. Sorry The pics were not close ups.

[charlie cleveland]

bill that 16 ga sounds like a very interesting gun..i almost had a 16 ga lefever one time.. if we could only turn the clock back...charlie

[Nick de Guerre]

The following each reference different comments above:

1. There is no such thing as an "off-face" Lefever. Only one with socket ball not properly adjusted.
2. Not Loy. Pointer's head is wrong. Loy's pointers, and Glahn's setters, are generally pretty easy to pick out when you've seen enough. There are a number of old threads in the DGJ forum with pics.
3. The vast majority of E grades from the late 30k until the end have a single "window" with a pointer on one side, and a setter on the other. Pointers and setters are about equally represented on Lefevers fom any era. Sub-gauges can have a variety of birds, but also snakes, rabbits and squirrels. Rarely seen, is a deer, bear, and even hunters (men).

NDG

[J. A. EARLY]

Originally Posted by Nick de Guerre

The following each reference different comments above:
1. There is no such thing as an "off-face" Lefever. Only one with socket ball not properly adjusted.
NDG

Yes there is such thing as an "off-face" Lefever. When moving the socket ball and the barrels do not line up with the breech and the ejectors don't work, it is not work for the amateur gunsmith or the faint at heart. It took someone far better than me to take care of a "socket ball not properly adjusted." I can tell by the amount of machinist/layout dye left on the barrels and rib extension that it was not a simple task. The gun had been shot extensively while loose and with the ejectors never properly working.