2018 Smith - Parker Events

Mills · 03-23-2018, 09:11 AM

Well, the Southern is right around the corner, along with the Smith Parker Challenge and the Smith Parker Hammer Gun Challenge. Here is a refresher on the rules for this year.

The big change this year is that Rick Hemingway and his staff from Backwoods will be handling sign ups and scoring this year. Also, make sure you bring your sons, daughters and young friends to participate in our youth shoot.

Look forward to seeing a bunch of you all there!

Mills · 03-23-2018, 09:11 AM

RULES

Fifteenth Annual L.C. Smith vs. Parker Challenge Cup
April 27-29, 2018

NOTE: THERE ARE NO RULES CHANGES FOR 2018, BUT THERE ARE MAJOR CHANGES IN REGISTRATION; PLEASE READ CAREFULLY TO AVOID CONFUSION

COMPETITOR QUALIFICATION

1. Competition is open to all members in good standing of the Organization (the LCSCA, or the PGCA) they represent. Current Membership rosters will be available at the both the LCSCA and PGCA booths inside the shared LCSCA/PGCA display tent for membership confirmation; and new member applications will also be available at both booths for those individuals wishing to join, or renew a membership to allow that individual to represent the Organization of his/her choice in the Challenge Event competition.

2. Members holding joint memberships in both the LCSCA and PGCA must choose ONE Association to represent in the competition; and will do so at the time of registration for Event One. Event One qualifying scores recorded by anyone who has registered, and participated for both Organizations during the Event One qualifier round will be disqualified.

3. Challenge Event entrants are not required to actually own a shotgun of the make related to the Organization they may be representing; but are required to SHOOT with a double gun manufactured by the maker of the Organization they represent. Therefore, guns may be borrowed for use during the Challenge Event competitions; and arrangements for a loaner gun made at the registration table (see Equipment rules below).

4. Adult professional shooters (men and women), or an adult receiving a sponsorship/s in any form from dealers, industry, or any like organization/s are not allowed to compete in this event. An adult is defined as anyone aged 18 years or older.

GUNS & EQUIPMENT

1. Shooters must use a vintage double shotgun manufactured by the gun maker represented by their Organization. Those shooting LC Smith guns and representing the LCSCA are limited to LC Smith guns manufactured in Syracuse and Fulton, NY; and those manufactured under Marlin Firearms ownership in New Haven, CT. Those shooting Parker Bros. or Parker labeled guns and representing the PGCA are limited to Parker guns manufactured in Meriden, CT; and Ilion, NY.

2. Participants may use any hammer or hammerless model and grade of Smith or Parker gun produced by the above named original gun companies. Reproductions or modern/imported guns marketed under these famous trade names are not allowed for use in this event.

3. Any gauge/bore size in which the Smith and Parker gun was originally manufactured may be used in the Challenge Event.

4. Modified and restored guns are allowed, including those with stock replacements or alterations, recoil pads, shortened or lined barrels, mono-blocked or sleeved barrels, screw-in chokes, etc. Guns used with relined barrels must be equipped with barrel liners of the same gauge in which the gun was originally shipped if the barrels of that gun, when manufactured, had been “fluid” steel.

5. Chamber inserts or chamber-size reducers (Chamber-Mates and similar devices), and full-length barrel inserts with gauge reducers are acceptable only for use in guns originally manufactured and fitted with Twist or Damascus steel barrels.

6. Shooters using guns equipped with screw-in chokes can do so, but such chokes may not be changed once competition has commence, and this restriction applies to both the Event One qualifier; and Event Two, the Team Championship event.

7. The wearing of Eye and Ear protection is required of all competitors; and all ammunition used during any venue must be loaded with size 7 1/2 shot or smaller so that all Challenge related shooting events conform to the insurance requirements in place at the Deep River Sporting Clays complex.

Event One Qualifier

1. Beginning with the 2018 Challenge Event, registration will NO LONGER take place inside the LCSCA/PGCA Exhibition Tent; registration for the Challenge Event will take place inside the trapper’s tent at the five-stand layout where the trapper’s assistance will have a current member roster for both organizations. At registration each participant will declare the name of the Organization he is representing, and the participants name will be checked to the appropriate member roster to verify member status. Those participants, whose membership is verified as current, will then be allowed to register for the event. Participants whose name is not on the active member roster will be advised to return to the LCSCA/PGCA display tent where they can either renew their membership, join the organization of their preference, or clear any issues that may have prevented their name from appearing on the member roster. Once either of those issues are cleared, that member will be given a slip indicating his membership is current, which is then presented to the trapper so that he can complete registration. Time will be a limiting factor for the Event One qualifier event, therefore LCSCA and PGCA members will shoot in mixed squads with the Organization represented by each participant noted on the registration form.

2. The Event One qualifier for each participant will consist of 50 targets to be fired on the Event One designated 5-stand layout/field. Registration will begin promptly at 8:15 AM Friday morning, April 27, 2018; and shall continue until approximately 12:00 Noon (or until the last participant has shot his/her qualifier round) on Saturday, April 28. EARLY REGISTRATION is a MUST HAVE requirement in order to keep the Event One qualifying process moving in a timely and orderly manner, as time constraints will limit available shooter slots to approximately 125 total; so register early or risk losing the opportunity to participate.

3. An Event One Entry fee of $10 will be collected at the time of registration and membership verification. This entry fee will be paid to the trapper’s assistant at the registration tent; and all Event One participants will receive a custom designed participation pin to memorialize their participation in the 2018 LC Smith vs. Parker Challenge. All Challenge entry fees will be donated to a charitable cause selected by the management of Deep River Sporting Clays in appreciation of their willingness, and graciousness in hosting the Challenge Event.

4. Each participant in the Challenge Event will be responsible for his/her own Target fees, set at $25.00 for the 50-target Event One qualifier; and said fees shall be paid directly to the 5-stand operator at the shooting venue (5-stand tickets may also be purchased in advance at the Deep River Club House; BUT DO NOT purchase a ticket at the Deep River Club House and go directly to the 5-stand with the expectation of registering and shooting immediately). ALL Event One participants must be registered and squadded at the by the trapper’s assistant inside the trapper’s tent.

5. The Event One qualifier will begin at 9:00 AM sharp on Friday morning (4/27). As participants register for Event One, they will be squadded and assigned a specific shooting time; and all shooters are encouraged to be at the Dove Field shooting venue at least 15-20 minutes prior to their scheduled shooting time. Again, PGCA and LCSCA members will be shooting as part of combined squads based on registration order unless other accommodation is made at time of registration; and then only if it is possible to make such accommodation.

6. For early Event arrivals a designated 5-stand practice venue will be open all day Thursday, April 26, 2018; and the same venue will also be open all day Friday, April 27, from 8:00 AM until closing; and on Saturday, April 28, until approximately 11:00 AM. Practice rounds will be available on a first-come/first-served basis; and the practice venue will consist of 25 targets. Shooter target fees will be $10 per round with those target fees paid directly to the clays vendor (or purchased at the Deep River office); but no target fees are included in the $10 Challenge Event entry fee. Shooters purchasing practice round tickets may only sign up for ONE ROUND AT A TIME, and may not place their name in rotation for another practice round until they have completed shooting their first time through the course.

7. Target presentation for the Event One qualifier will be 50 TARGETS fired on ONE 5-STAND course; and the target presentation shall be as follows: one (1) Report Pair followed by four (4) True Pairs at each of the five, 5-stand shooter stations.

8. During this 50-target Event One qualifier venue, shooters are allowed one gun malfunction with the opportunity to re-shoot any targets lost. Referees will verify any gun malfunction while the shooter maintains control of his gun with gun muzzles pointed in a safe direction. Any further malfunctions will result in a target/s scored as “Lost”; and the decision of the referee shall be final in all instances. Note: If a shooter calls “pull” and loses a target either because his gun was in the “On Safe” position, or he failed to cock a hammer; that over-sight does not qualify as a gun malfunction, and the target/s will be scored as “Lost”.

Event Two - Challenge Cup Shootout: 3:30 PM Saturday April, 28

1. At the conclusion of the Event One qualifier, representatives from the LCSCA and PGCA will select from among their team of shooters 10 Challenge Cup Team members to represent their respective Associations; and those 10 shooters will be those individuals who have earned that distinction by scoring the highest number of broken targets from the 50 target Event One qualifier. Should Event One results for either team result in tie scores for the tenth and final team position; the following tie-breaker rule will be utilized: the final team slot will be determined using the reverse long-run method (the highest number of broken targets scored from last target scored broken).

2. Participants must report to the registration tent after Event One has been completed in order to determine their status for Event Two. Final scores will be tabulated by approximately 2:30 PM on Saturday, April 28; and the names of those ten (10) Challenge Team members for both Organizations will be posted to the leader board located by the entry to the Exhibition tent. Alternate Challenge Team members (those three members from each organization with the next highest Event One scores) will be asked to remain on stand-by should any one of the 10 qualified Challenge Team members be called away, or cannot be located prior to the commencement of the Challenge Cup Shootout.

3. All Challenge Team members will be provided with commemorative caps (Red for Team Parker and Green for Team LC), and will proudly wear those hats prior to, during, and after the competition for Team identification purposes, and for Event related photos.

4. The Challenge Cup Shootout will begin at approximately 3:30 PM Saturday afternoon; April 28; and shooters representing each Team will report to their respective Team Manager not later than 3:00 PM for squad assignments and Team strategy sessions.

5. A coin toss will determine which team will begin the initial round of the competition; and 5-man squads from each Team will then alternate taking the field until the Challenge Event shoot-out has been completed.

6. The course of fire for the Challenge Shootout will consist of THIRTY (30) TARGETS for each squad member fired as follows: one Report Pair and two True Pairs at each station. Target presentations will be completely reconfigured prior to the beginning of Event Two so that the “playing field” is leveled for each Team

7. The Team who will lay claim to the 2018 Challenge Cup will be the Team registering the highest number of broken targets from the combined 300 target presentation format.

8. In the event of a tied team score, the Team winner will be determined by a shoot-off conducted from station three; with each team represented by the shooter from that Team who has the highest combined scores from Event One and Event Two. Tie scores for the “Top Gun” individual award will be settled in the same manner.

List of Awards:

Top Gun
Runner Up
3rd Place
4th Place
High Lady
2nd Place Lady
High Youth
2nd Place Youth (17 years and younger; note: Lady and Youth shooters are also eligible to win the top
Challenge Event awards based on individual performances)

INDIVIDUAL AWARDS DETERMINATIONS:

In the event of a tie(s) for any of the remaining individual awards, the ultimate winner will be determined by a shoot-off conducted immediately following the completion of the Challenge Shootout. It will be the responsibility of each competitor to determine if he/she might be involved in a shoot-off; and any qualifying shooter not present for said shoot-off will forfeit all claims to the contested award. Therefore, following the conclusion of the Challenge Shootout, each of the 20 competitors involved are hereby strongly encouraged to determine their scores and ranking before leaving. Should time constraints or weather conditions preclude a shoot-off, ties will be resolved via the reverse long run of broken targets method beginning with the last target fired in the Shootout; and in the event that any award is contested, representatives from each Association will confer to determine the winner and their decision shall be final.

AWARDS SCHEDULE:

1. The Challenge Cup trophy, Team, and individual awards will be presented following the end of the Challenge Event; and tabulations of team and shooter scores. Unless altered, the location for presentation of the Challenge Cup and individual trophy awards will be at the front entry to the LCSCA/PGCA Exhibition tent. The Challenge Cup trophy shall be presented to the designated representative of the winning Team; and the winning Association is then responsible for engraving their Association’s name and year of win where denoted on the Cup itself. There will also be a non-traveling permanent award presented to the winning Association.

2. Individual awards will be presented to the Top Gun, 2nd place, and 3rd and 4th place shooters based on their combined scores from Event One and Event Two.

3. Awards for High Lady and Youth will be determined by their score in Event One. In the event of a tie, the tie breaker rule will be used. IF more than one individual Lady or Youth participant were to advance to Event Two, then the combined scores from both Events One and Two will be used to make the award determination.

Mills · 03-23-2018, 09:12 AM

RULES

L.C. Smith vs. Parker Hammer Gun Challenge
Sunday, April 29, 2018

NOTE: THERE ARE NO RULES CHANGES FOR 2018, BUT THERE ARE MAJOR CHANGES IN REGISTRATION; PLEASE READ CAREFULLY TO AVOID CONFUSION

COMPETITOR QUALIFICATION

1. Competition is open to all members in good standing of the Organization (the LCSCA, or the PGCA) they represent. Current Membership rosters will be available at the both the LCSCA and PGCA booths inside the shared LCSCA/PGCA display tent for membership confirmation; and new member applications will also be available at both booths for those individuals wishing to join, or renew a membership to allow that individual to represent the Organization of his/her choice in the Hammer Gun Event competition.

2. Members holding joint memberships in both the LCSCA and PGCA must choose ONE Association to represent in the competition; and will do so at the time of registration. Scores recorded by anyone who has registered, and participated for both Organizations during the Hammer Gun competition will be disqualified; HOWEVER, a dual membership holder may compete in the Hammer Gun Challenge for a different Association than the Association which that member represented in the Challenge Cup Event..

3. Hammer Gun Event entrants are not required to actually own a shotgun of the make related to the Organization they may be representing; but are required to SHOOT with a hammer gun manufactured by the maker of the Organization they represent. Therefore, guns may be borrowed for use during the Hammer Gun Event competition, and members who wish to participate in the Hammer Gun Challenge are encouraged to make arrangements to borrow a Smith or Parker shotgun to use.

4. Adult professional shooters (men and women), or an adult receiving a sponsorship/s in any form from dealers, industry, or any like organization/s are not allowed to compete in this event. An adult is defined as anyone aged 18 years or older.

EQUIPMENT

1. Participants are required to use only those double shotguns manufactured by the maker represented by the Collectors Association to which they belong (i.e., L.C. Smith/Hunter Arms/Marlin for LCSCA; or Parker/Remington for the PGCA).

2. Participants may use any exposed-hammer model or grade, and or gauge/bore size LC Smith or Parker shotgun originally manufactured by those respective companies. Reproductions or modern/imported guns marketed under these famous trade names are prohibited for use in this Event.

3. Modified and restored guns are allowed, including guns with a stock replacement or alterations, recoil pads, shortened or lined barrels, mono-blocked or sleeved barrels, screw-in chokes, etc. Guns used with relined barrels must be equipped with barrel liners of the same gauge in which the gun was originally shipped if the barrels of that gun, when manufactured, had been “fluid” steel.

4. Chamber inserts and gauge reducers (Chamber-Mates, etc.) and/or full-length barrel inserts with gauge reducers are acceptable only for use in those L.C. Smith and Parker hammer guns that were originally manufactured and shipped with Twist or Damascus barrels.

5. Shooters using guns equipped with screw-in chokes can do so, but such chokes may not be changed once competition has commenced. Participants using guns equipped with screw-in chokes may not change choke tubes once the competition has begun.

6. The wearing of Eye and Ear protection is required of all competitors; and all ammunition used during this venue must be loaded with size 7 1/2 shot or smaller so that the Hammer Gun Challenge conforms to the insurance requirements in place at the Deep River Sporting Clays complex.

Hammer Gun Challenge Event

1. Beginning with the 2018 Hammer Gun Challenge Event, registration will NO LONGER take place inside the LCSCA/PGCA Exhibition Tent; registration for the Hammer Gun Event will take place inside the trapper’s tent at the five-stand layout where the trapper’s assistant will have a current member roster for both organizations. At registration each participant will declare the name of the Organization he/she is representing, and the participants name will be checked to the appropriate member roster to verify member status. Those participants, whose membership is verified as current, will then be allowed to register for the event. Participants whose name is not on the active member roster will be advised to return to the LCSCA/PGCA display tent where they can either renew their membership, join the organization of their preference, or clear any issues that may have prevented their name from appearing on the member roster. Once a membership issue has been resolved, that member will be given a slip indicating his membership is current, which is then presented to the trapper to complete registration.
LCSCA and PGCA members will shoot and qualify utilizing the same mixed-squads format used in the Challenge Event, with the name of each participant’s Organization noted on the registration form at the time of sign-up. Participants will be assigned to a squad based on the order of their registration; and if an individual wishes to shoot with a partner or shoot with friends or as a group, all must be registered simultaneously. Again, participants must register to represent only one Organization. Squadding and registration shall commence Friday morning (April 27, 2018) in conjunction with Challenge Event sign-ups. Sign-ups will continue until the beginning of the Hammer Gun Challenge Sunday morning, April 29, 2018 at 8:30 AM; the final day of the Southern Side x Side Championships. Given Event time constraints, all participants are STRONGLY encouraged to register as early as possible; and sign-ups will conclude when the last squad registered has completed shooting.

2. All Hammer Gun Challenge participants will pay an entry fee of $10 at registration and verification of Membership status; with all proceeds from those entry fees to be retained and equally divided between the Organizations.

3. Hammer Gun Challenge target fees are $15.00 per 30 targets and may be paid directly to the shooting venue operator at the “Dove Field”; or purchased in advance at the Deep River operations office.

4. Participants will be squadded at registration for their approximate shooting time; and the first squad will begin shooting at 8:30 AM. Participants should be at the Dove Field venue 15-30 minutes prior to their scheduled shooting time or risk an alternative time slot being unavailable should they fail to report at their appointed time.

5. Practice shooting will be available (but limited by time constraints) at the Dove Field 5-stand venue beginning all day Thursday (for early arrivals) and Friday (April 26 and 27); and until approximately 10:30 AM Saturday (April 28). Practice rounds are always available on a first-come-first served basis. Shooters may sign up for ONLY ONE PRACTICE ROUND AT A TIME, and may not place their name in rotation for another practice round until such time as they have completed shooting their first time through the course. Tickets for practice targets may be purchased directly from the venue operator, or purchased at the Deep River operations office; and target fees for each practice round will be $10 for 25 clays. Target fees are NOT included within the $10 Hammer Gun Challenge entry fee.

6. Course of fire for the Hammer Gun Challenge will be as follows: THIRTY (30) TARGETS fired as One (1) Report Pair and Two (2) True Pair from each station. All traps will be thoroughly re-set prior to commencement of the Hammer Gun Challenge so that the “field of play” is leveled for all participants.

7. Participants are allowed one gun malfunction during the event with the opportunity to re-shoot any targets lost. Referees will verify any malfunction while the shooter maintains control of his gun with the gun pointed in a safe direction; all referee decisions will be final. Any further gun malfunctions will result in a target/s scored as “Lost”; and failing to cock a gun prior to calling for a target/s does not qualify as a gun malfunction.

8. The winning Hammer Gun Team will be crowned by determining the top 10 individual shooter scores from each organization; then tabulating the combined total number of broken targets. The team with the highest combined total of targets scored broken will be declared Winner of the 2018 Hammer Gun Challenge. In the event of a tie between the LCSCA and PGCA, the scores of the 11th place shooters from each Organization will be compared to determine the winning Team. Should the Teams still be tied afterwards, those scores recorded by the 12th place shooters will be compared to determine the winning Team; and so on until a tie is broken.

TIE SCORES FOR HIGH GUN AWARDS

The Hammer Challenge (TOP GUN) Award will be presented to the shooter with the highest individual score in the Hammer Gun Challenge Event based on the 30 target presentation. In the event of a tie score, weather and time constraints permitting; a shoot-off shall be held at station three to determine the Top Gun winner. Representatives from both the LCSCA and PGCA will confer with the 5-Stand operator to determine the course of fire; and all participants are strongly encouraged to wait for tabulation of final Hammer Gun Event scores to learn if their participation may be required in a tie-breaker shoot-off. In the event that time constraints and/or weather conditions are such that a shoot-off becomes impossible, ties will be resolved via the reverse long run method; the winner being determined by the longest consecutive streak of broken targets counted from the last target fired.

Ties for the Second Place award will be resolved based on the results of a shoot-off as described above; and should a shoot-off be required, said shoot off shall also be held at station three; and conducted under the same parameters as noted above for the Top Gun award.

AWARDS SCHEDULE

1. The Hammer Gun Challenge permanent Team award, and both individual shooter awards, will be awarded at the conclusion of the Hammer Gun Challenge Event on April 29; and shall be presented to the winners at the LCSCA/PGCA Exhibition tent.

Mills · 04-12-2018, 01:56 PM

Due to logistical concerns (power, space, wind issues, etc.) a decision has been made to CONTINUE REGISTRATION for both the Challenge Event and the Hammer Gun Challenge Event inside the LCSCA/PGCA Exhibition Tent; rather than at the five-stand trapper’s tent as had been planned and announced previously. Please note this ONE change, which means only that registration will continue to take place exactly as it has been done in years past.

And to make sign-ups for all five-stand related events convenient, consistent, and more “shooter friendly”; our trapper, Rick Hemingway, will have his representative posted inside the LCSCA/PGCA Exhibition Tent from Thursday, April 26 until all five-stand Events have concluded on Sunday afternoon April 29. This individual will not only handle sign-ups for the Challenge Event and Hammer Gun Challenge Event, but will also handle sign-ups for the 16 and 20 Gauge Challenge Events taking place on Thursday afternoon, April 26; and for the Youth Challenge scheduled to take place on Saturday afternoon, April 28. This same individual will also be selling tickets for five-stand practice rounds. Please note these changes; and thanks in advance for your cooperation.