Engine turning on breech end of barrels.

hugh rather · 06-04-2009, 10:41 PM

There is a thread by Jack Johnson in the other fine doubles discussion in this forum where an L.C.Smith double breech end is shown having engine turning on barrel breech ends.I have seen a 1907 VHE Parker with similar engine turning.This is a fine[not deep or coarse}engine turning radiating from the chambers.Is this a factory ornamentation or is this aftermarket in the Parker?

Dean Romig · 06-04-2009, 10:52 PM

Hugh, I believe it is the result of the final finish cut or polish of the breech end. I have a couple of Parkers displaying this "engine turning" however, I don't believe it was done intentionally such as the engine turning that was done as an embellishment to the surfaces of many internal parts of the highest few grades of Parkers.

Dean

James Brown · 06-05-2009, 10:24 AM

This is my first attempt to use the new forum.
Is this what you refer to. I have been curious about this myself. It looks as if it was done on purpose to me.
J. Brown
Well I will have to try photo again. Didn't do it right.

James Brown · 06-05-2009, 10:29 AM

Trying again.

hugh rather · 06-06-2009, 12:03 AM

Yes,same pattern but not as well defined.

Dean Romig · 06-07-2009, 11:00 PM

Unfortunately James, some folks think by faking the machining on the breech end of the barrels they can elevate the value of the gun. The example you have shown is clearly faked machining and does nothing to enhance the value of the gun.
Nice gun otherwise - is that a graded .410 ?? Sweet !!

James Brown · 06-10-2009, 08:47 PM

Well, Mr. Romig, I was a bit taken aback. "Fake" ..... pretty strong word but straightforward. I have a great respect for your knowledge of and experience with Parkers. More research to do. Appreciate your input. I hope the P. T. Barnum theorem has not taken effect here.

James

Dean Romig · 06-10-2009, 09:53 PM

Please call me Dean - may I call you James?
"Fake" is a strong word and I sincerely hope I didn't upset you in using the word, however I can think of no other word to aptly describe the affected markings applied to the breech end of your barrels. And I would hardly say that the P. T. Barnum theorum applies here - a nice .410 is a nice .410 no matter a little mischief done to it. I looks like a DHE or a CHE, which is it? It looks nice, will you share more pictures? Dean

James Brown · 06-12-2009, 07:09 PM

Dean:
As my Dad used to say " Call me anything as long as you call me when supper's ready". James is fine. No offense taken. The gun presents itself as a CHE and I have some question as to how it got that way. Whether Remington put it together from leftover parts or someone else did I'm not sure of yet.
Either way it's a lot of fun to shoot. My camera has gone to Africa with my daughter on a mission trip so I've just a couple of old photos.

James

Autumn Daze · 06-13-2009, 07:59 AM

James,That is one beautiful gun! Congratulations