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09-27-2018, 07:45 PM | #13 | ||||||
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Proof marks which I believe indicate proofed in 1997?
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10-02-2018, 11:53 AM | #14 | ||||||
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Have a question that I am sure one of you guys can answer, I own two guns that were made across the pond so to speak, are they English guns or Birmingham and what is the difference? The guns in question is a 28 bore William Atkinson with the jones underlever, and a Charles Hellis 410bore both are back action and steel barreled and of course side by sides, just curious to know Gary
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10-02-2018, 12:11 PM | #15 | ||||||
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William Atkinson and/or William Atkinson & Son is listed at various Lancaster addresses from1874-1966.
Charles Hellis was established in 1884, 21 Shrewsbury Rd, London, became Charles Hellis & Son in 1902, absorbed by AG&L in 1960, restarted as Hellis Beesley & Watson in 1984, and is now Charles Hellis & Sons (again) at 10 Harness Way, Albans, Herts. Little difference in WHERE English guns are made. It's the quality level they're made to. Still, "name" London guns carry a social prestige B'ham guns do not. Being small bores, both your guns are quite desirable. |
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10-02-2018, 12:18 PM | #16 | ||||||
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As I am learning in my research, many so called "London guns" were actually made in Birmingham, but there is still a prestige level attached to that london address.
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10-02-2018, 12:32 PM | #17 | ||||||
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Interesting info, and I thank you, Gary
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10-02-2018, 07:33 PM | #18 | ||||||
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The overall quality and fit and finish and ability to stand up to shooting and abuse will determine whether an unknown maker of the small bore gun will be acceptable for us to own. If I wanted to own a smallbore gun, I would attempt to find a name brand gun or one that is very sound based on personal inspection.
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10-02-2018, 07:58 PM | #19 | ||||||
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Congrats......................on your purchase.
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01-29-2019, 01:01 PM | #20 | ||||||
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And that is why I called it an education. This Evans is a fine fine gun, but I just can't feel the attachment/nostalgia I feel when I look at/shoot/mess with my Parkers.
It is just a gun in the safe. It shoots great, the straight stock is an adjustment but nothing too serious there, but it just doesn't get the blood pumping like guns I like tend to. I can see that I will probably be sending this one down the road in the near future. Shame, it is a fine gun, but its just a gun to me and I don't have room in the safe for just a gun. My anglophile great uncle is rolling over in his grave as I write this and saying he was right not to leave me his Greener when he died.......
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