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Great question! I'm looking forward to a good tutorial that just might make it into the FAQ page. Someone with a try-gun must know the answer to this.
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12-08-2016, 12:43 PM | #4 | ||||||
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Phil: I am 6-2, 190 and find my ideal dimensions are 14 1/4, 1 1/2, 2 1/2 with no cast and 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 inches of pitch. Most of my Parkers are 14, 1 3/4, 2 3/4. I just lighten up the spot weld of my face on the comb, and they seem to do fine. I can shoot as much as a 3 inch drop at heel, but have to spot weld a little lower on my jaw than with the straighter guns. Anything over 3 and I pass on the gun--just too much to adapt to, although if it were my only gun I'm sure I could do it eventually. This sounds like I am a crack shot. I am not. I shoot 55% average at clays with 80% being my best day. Crossed dominant. I do a little better on large birds like pheasants and geese. I get 5 rounds of clays and 10 days in the field a year if I am lucky, so I won't be getting any better. Have fun.
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12-08-2016, 01:06 PM | #5 | ||||||
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If you think about a trap or skeet gun the essence of shooting accurately is mounting the gun over and over so it always mounts in the same position on your shoulder, where our face plants on the stock, how cocked your head is (held high or leaned down into the gun) where you place your hand on the forearm, etc. If you change any dimensions of the gun, wear a glove, add a few layers of clothes or fundamentally change your mounting positions you will feel the gun differently. The balance in relation to your body will change, it may kick more, it may slap your face, etc.
If you have a t-shirt on and mount a gun it will fit one way, if you are wearing 3 layers of clothes it will mount differently. That will throw your shooting off until you shoot it enough to compensate for the added LOP. It is the same for DAH, DAC and cast. If you have some agility in your arms, neck and head you can compensate for some but not all the factors. Some people because of their build and or dexterity are unable to compensate and poorly shoot guns that do not fit. It is best to find or have measured for you a gun that fits best and when you purchase a new gun try to keep those dimensions within a small range of those measurements. I have a Greener with a 13.5 lop which is too short for me. If I add a few layers of cloths it matters not. I still try to mount it in the same way as my other guns, my face lands on the wrong place on the stock and I get kicked in the cheek. I don't shoot it enough to train myself to compensate for the difference in LOP. |
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12-08-2016, 01:38 PM | #6 | ||||||
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Well, if you have ever had a stock fitting and know your dimensions you could always have the stock bent for drop and cast. I have had this done to two guns and they both shoot beautifully for me now.
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12-08-2016, 02:07 PM | #7 | ||||||
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I was fitted last winter at Connecticut Shotgun for a custom RBL that I ordered. I was a bit surprised at how high the dimensions were compared to what I thought I liked and shot pretty well. Long story short I love the gun and shoot it as well as can be expected. I just try and find guns that are close to that fit now.
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12-08-2016, 02:43 PM | #8 | ||||||
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I found this on the web and I think there are words of wisdom here.....
http://www.gundogmag.com/training/fi...un-to-fit-you/ |
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12-08-2016, 03:05 PM | #9 | ||||||
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Phil, thanks for this interesting thread. It will indeed be entertaining because opinions on gun fit are so varied. Rather than offer my rendition of the ideal I'll offer this.
As coach for a youth shotgun team I struggled with getting new shooters getting a proper gun mount. That is, until I purchased a quality in-the-bore laser. Many shooters think they are pointing the gun at the target but the laser tells a different story. The laser does not lie. It has turned out to be one of the better purchases I ever made. Last edited by Gary Laudermilch; 12-08-2016 at 03:56 PM.. Reason: poor spelling |
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12-08-2016, 05:03 PM | #10 | ||||||
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Perhaps it's just my build, but I find the drop at the comb to be more important than the drop at the heel. I'm 5' 7" and 158. If the drop at the comb is between 1 1/2 to 1 5/8, it does not seem to matter much if the DAH is 2 5/8 or 3 1/4. Maybe it's because most of my guns have a short LOP and I shoot in a rather " heads up " position, but I prefer around 3 " at the heel.
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