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Unread 12-03-2018, 03:43 PM   #1
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Anyone have experience loading black powder substitutes such as Pyrodex in shotgun shells? I am planning on loading some 10 and 12 ga. for clay target shooting and have the recipes from here and another forum but '' real'' black powder is hard to come by here.
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I use Alliant's Black MZ.The cost is about half of other substitutes at $11.00 a pound. I have not loaded any shotgun shells with it. Only precussion pistols, rifles, and cartridges. It is very forgiving when it comes to cleaning.
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Thank you. A member has given me a company fairly close who has the powder i want in stock and i will pick up Wed. Any experience with substitutes in shotguns ?
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if you load pyrodex make sure you clean your gun good before you store it away...it rusts faster than black powder ever did....charlie
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Order RST and don't worry about it.
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Plastic wads will melt with black powder and it’s substitutes. Use fiber wads available from Circle Fly Wads. The old standard was a square load. That is an equal volume of powder, wads, and shot. I use MagTech extruded brass and wads one gauge larger. For 12 gauge I use 11 gauge wads. There is 10 gauge extruded brass out there with Parker on them but they are expensive.
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Mills i checked the RST website and did not see BP loads listed, did i miss them? My reason for getting these must be kept quite because some of my clay shooting partners are members here but not frequent visitors.
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My reason for getting these must be kept quite because some of my clay shooting partners are members here but not frequent visitors.




i'm sure its not your reason- but a funny BP story -

many years ago a friend and his dad belonged to a small gun club- and it was quite disappointing to members to find out some one was stealing boxes of shells from members who left them sitting unguarded on tables in the club house- so one day my friend's dad set a box of AA's with his stuff on a table and left them there when they went out to shoot a round. My friend said something to his dad who simply said don't worry about it- sure enough, when they came back in the box of shells was gone.

His dad laughed and said lets go sit outside and watch people shoot. they were only there for a few minutes when a guy stepped up to station one on a skeet field and called for his bird - BOOOM goes the shot in cloud of smoke. the shooter looked around to see everyone staring at him, then picked up his stuff and left, never to return to that club.

yup- he had loaded that box with black powder
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RST does not make black powder loads. They make smokeless loads with pressures comparable to black powder.
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