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Unread 10-15-2018, 07:29 PM   #21
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I have a question. I've read on another web site that there is color case hardening and case coloring. The second one is done at a temp, but not enough to case harden the parts. It's more of a chemical process. It was also said that Turnbell [ along with at least Pietta ] uses the second process, but no talk if they also used a hardening process. Can anyone shed any light on this ?
TURNBULL replicates case colors which is an attractive result of the hardening process . The process involves bone charcoal and heat and skill


an after thought- some later case color was done with a cyanide process- its a boiling process so not as much heat and little if any hardening
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Unread 10-15-2018, 08:25 PM   #22
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This is the best example I have of Brads work (circa 2009-10). He refinished (wood and cc parts) my 28 ga Repro. Work was bone/charcoal as best he could do at the time to recreate the original Parker process 8-9 years later the colors have held up well.

Brad also re-case hardened a 20 VH for me about 2-years before he passed. The colors look great - but there really isn't much of an "I" on the bottom of the receiver, which he pointed out to me.

The loss of Brads experience will be felt but I am confident that Parker, Lori and the team are passionate about carrying on Brads ethic and attention to detail.

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I have a 16 ga vh that I had DelGrego do a total restoration on about 8 or 10 yrs ago. Did not know at that time that they only colored with cynanide. Anyhow, the gun came back after a yr and i noticed the base plate was not seated completely and the old screws had not
been been replaced so i called lawrence and shipped it back. Colors looked good tho. Anyway, the gun comes back. Base plate is fully seated with new screws. However the screw heads had a copper luster which did not look correct. Called Lawrence and he says rub the screw heads with an eraser. I did and they did not look any different. About 6 months later after hunting with it and some skeet, i noticed the colors on the base plate were just about completely worn off. No solvents used on outside of the gun
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Go figure. Gun is at Bachelders for re coloring bone charcoal. Have not used DelGrego since.
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There are a couple photos of my VH16/ O frame/ Straight grip on the General Discussion Forum..dated 3-02-18. Brad did the color and trigger guard..
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No, I've been reading post over on highroad, and in the black powder forums if you punch in case colors in the search box a bunch of post will come up discussing different methods of case coloring.
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in the black powder world Kasenit was (maybe still is) a popular way to harden frizzens

i never used it, so not sure if it added color as well
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I have it right now and I never remember it adding color when ever I used it.
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I use Jonn Gillette Classic Guns L.T.D. Crete Ill. Phone 708-367-1620 good prices and turn around time. J.J.
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A VHE 28 done by Del Grego just hit Guns Int'l today at $15,500.. It has the cyanide case colors, not original Parker colors but nice if the like the cyanide colors.
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A VHE for 15,500 ? I must be out of touch with reality.
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