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Unread 01-04-2015, 07:50 PM   #1
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Does anyone have photos of what DeCarbonized barrels look like in original condition? Just curious. Does anyone do refinishing work on DeCarbonized barrels?
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Unread 01-04-2015, 08:39 PM   #2
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i dont have a gun with those kind of barrels but i know they look like the plain steel barrels parker used..they pretty much look like fluid steel barrels except more of a black finish than blue...charlie
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Mills, These are from #1416 a Parker Back Action gun.
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De carbed barrels on my Remingtons look no different than Vulcan steel but trend more towards black or real deep blue color. Hard to really tell on 140 + year old finish.
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Thank you Scott, and I added one of your images here with an attribution
http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/19406549

And BTW; based on Dave's composition analysis, "Parker Steel" may well be Decarbonized/Parker Plain Steel
http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthr...t=12593&page=4
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Wasn't Decarbonized Steel also referred to as ordinance steel and wasn't it considered to be the best quality steel suitable for rifle, gun, and cannon barrels at the time?
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Dean,

I don't think so. I had a Remington 10 ga hammer gun grade 1 with decarbonized barrels. The barrels had some small dents and I sold the gun when I found out how strong decarbonized steel is; the reccomendation was not to shoot it with black powder or low pressure loads but to find one that had twist or Damascus barrels. Ordinance steel is a different composition and VERY much stronger. I saw something about how strong ordinance steel is in Remington Doubles by Charles Semmer.

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I have heard decarbonized steel is the weakest of the steels used for Parker barrels. I have one Parker with decarbonized barrels and I just have it as a collector's piece.
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No. "Remington Ordnance Steel" was introduced in 1897 for the 1894 Hammerless Double and had a reported tensile strength of 110,000 psi.
"Remington Steel" used on the Model 1900 was likely similar to Winchester and Marlin "Rolled (Bessemer) Steel", with a tensile strength of 66,000 - 70,000 psi.
Bessemer/Decarbonized steel tensile strength is about 63,000 psi, similar to AISI 1018 Low Carbon (Mild) Steel.

I tried to use the 'Search' function for previous discussions regarding Decarbonized Steel strength, but this is all I found
http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthr...d+steel&page=3

For comparison, the average tensile strength in my study for crolle Damascus was 54,500 psi; less than that reported for Bessemer.

To be clear, Bessemer is NOT the same as Charles Parker Makers "Gun Iron" barrels which were made from surplus Cast Steel musket barrels.

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BTW: The Remington 1889 hammer gun No. 1 had decarbonized steel and was "Guaranteed For Nitro Powders"

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