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Unread 03-11-2020, 08:13 AM   #11
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I have never seen a stock or forend like that come out of the DelGrego shop.

Isn’t that grip referred to as a “Rudy Etchen grip”?





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An Etchen grip is much more radical than this one. Not suggesting that any or this wood ever saw the Parker factory, but there have been a few Parkers built with severely curved pistol grips. They are very rare. This is a wonderful gun and it should not be modified from its present form.
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Dean,
I was close friends with Rudy from 1980 until his passing, having met him in Shreveport, LA on my first sales assignment with Remington. I have handled many of his shotguns with the "Etchen Grip" and this is not one of them. Wish it WAS! The Etchen grip had more radius to it and was not as thin (I know it is hard to tell from the photos). Mr. Murphy noted such.
Rudy had a Model 12 that fit me perfectly, but how was a Remington man supposed to get away with that?

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Have you ever seen a forend iron configuration like this one has? Thanks again! Scott Hanes

The forend iron and the latch are completely Parker however, the forend lug on the barrel is not - But, it could be the original lug modified to accept the new placement of the iron/latch in the replacement forend wood.





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J. Scott, Rudy may have been a Remington man, but his stockmaking enterprise didn't play any favorites. He made stocks for all guns. His some time headquarters in Sun Valley was a good deal for a stockmaker. I have no idea who the actual craftsman was, but I doubt it was Rudy. Rudy was in residence at the Remington plant at Ilion one time I was there, but we never crossed paths. Some of his guns and paraphernalia including his famous Remington 870 are on display at the National Firearms Museum. Rudy didn't just shoot Remingtons, however. I tried to purchase his Purdey pigeon gun some years ago, but was too late. His son was offering it for sale for a very attractive price.
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That is a great observation, Dean! Thank you. I did note the welded piece added to the lug, but did not know about its originality. Appreciate that info.

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Bill, all the stocks were made by Rudy's dad, Fred. Rudy had very large hands with thick fingers. When he had that 870 in his hand, you could not see the grip at all! He always claimed that the grip design helped control the gun. In all the trapshooting he did, he never used a release trigger. With that huge hand and the small, tight radius' grip, nothing moved except his trigger finger. If you ever read his father's book "Commensense Shotgun Shooting", there is a photo of Rudy on a skeet field, standing on one leg on the shell stand they used to have on skeet and trap fields, holding a Model 12 in his right hand only from station 8 and station 4 to show how one could control the gun with the Etchen grip.

Also pictured in that book are two Parkers (one 30" VR and one 32") with the Etchen grip, a Model 31 Rem (Fred's gun) and 2 model 12 Winchesters.

Was that Purdey the "Bar in Wood"?? That was a beautiful shotgun.

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I have Fred's book in my collection. No, Rudy's Purdey was a standard late vintage (post WW1) pigeon gun, self opener, hammerless, 32" barrels as I recall. I have a picture of it around here somewhere.
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I donated a signed copy of "Commonsense Shotgun Shooting" to the ATA museum many years ago. Rudy's son Joel is also a great shot. Must run in the family!
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