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Unread 01-22-2011, 12:47 PM   #1
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Hi Parker guys!

While I now own more Parker 10 gauges than all my LC Smiths I have a special place in my heart for Chain Damascus!

A while back I acquired an oil soaked and somewhat surface pitted LC Smith Grade 2 in 10 Gauge with Chain Damascus barrels. This 10 gauge was in sad shape but it did have near perfect bores! I had the gun shipped directly to Brad Bachelder for a complete restoration. I could not be happier with the results. I included a couple "before" photos for reference.

The bores measure .775" with .050" constriction. Who ever owned this old fowling piece certainly kept the bores clean! Unfortunately, they also oiled the entire gun as seen in these before photos:


Oil soaked stock and with surface pitting.

Does anyone know how a barrel recoil lug could become so pitted?


Now, what you have all been waiting for! Restored "Chain Damascus"!





































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Unread 01-22-2011, 12:57 PM   #2
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Good for you Mark.

I've always liked the Chain and the Stars & Stripes patterns.
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mark if you roll crimped those shells im going to give you a passing grade of A+....THOSE CRIMPS ARE THE BEST IVE SEEN IF THEY ARE RELOADS...nice nice guns..... charlie
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Charlie,

The loads are new Remington hulls shortened to 2 & 7/8". They were roll crimped using a $50 table top adjustable speed drill press from TSC, a Ballistics Products Incorporated (BPI) roll crimp tool, and a BPI shell vise.

I played with the vintage roll crimper pictured and it still crimps pretty well if one turns the crank at the correct speed.

With either electric or hand roll crimper the device must be turned at the correct speed. For plastic hulls crimpers work best once they heat up a little.

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Mark you did good.... and Brad did a great job ! Were you able to save the old stock or did Brad make a new one? Love those barrels... Eric
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Eric,

This is the wood the gun left the factory with in 1901.

When received, one could press their finger on the head of the stock and get oil on their finger.
Brad Bachelder used a process to boil the oil out of stocks. I am continually impressed by Brad's innovation to employ new methods to restore these fine old guns.

PS: I do wish Parker had used Chain Damascus for their barrels!

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Mark
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Stunning restoration. Beautiful work. Now, will it see the marshes, lakes, rivers and streams next season??
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Jack,

I'm sure that I'll use the Big Chain Gun to bag a few geese but it is doubtful that it will do time in my sculling boat!

My go-to duck and goose gun is a worn but tight, bolt through the stock EH. It was responsible for 5 down geese in 2 shots this season!

I also have a few Elsie Grade 2 and 3 Chain Guns in 12 gauge that see duck duty.

So many great old American doubles... Which one will I hunt with today?

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Like the gun also. got a roll crimper like your old one yesterday off e bay i have rem hulls also so cranking speed is slow midium or fast so i kind of know where to start. Do you put them toghether with a press them roll crimp or do you do all by hand? do you compress a little before you roll crimp? Thoes are smokless loads arn't they. best ch
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