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11-13-2015, 06:47 AM | #3 | ||||||
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Dean
Roy vail was a costom gun builder. He only engraved his own guns and did not accept engraving commissions. This leads me to believe its of his own making. He is most notably known for his clients of Eisenhower, Admiral Nimitz and Clark Gable, Tom |
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11-13-2015, 07:24 AM | #4 | ||||||
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This gun does appear to be built on a Francotte A&D action. The value of it resides mostly in Vail's work and/or possible ownership. The risky bit is the wrist. If the repair is well done, no matter. If not, well...
Still, with reasonable 3/4 or 7/8 oz loads, it should be fine. |
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11-13-2015, 03:38 PM | #5 | ||||||
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Roy engraved a custom Mod. 21, 20 gauge that I own, and shot at Ernie's this past June. I purchased this gun mainly because of the engraving theme. Scroll on the barrels and receiver along with an American Eagle on the floorplate. Although I have no provenance on this gun, I feel certain that it was commissioned for someone either in the military or federal government. Getting back to the topic of this thread, it most certainly looks like a Francotte action to me. If the wrist repair is solid and I wanted to use it as a field gun, I think 1,500 to 1,750 would be a reasonable price.
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02-08-2016, 11:39 PM | #6 | ||||||
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Dean, except for the engraving, that gun is identical to a Raick Freres belgian 20 i have....identical...my gun has 25 1/2 " bbls.
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02-09-2016, 06:25 AM | #7 | ||||||
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What is it with doubles like this always being kept in the back room of gun shops?
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I've owned several Roy Vail shotguns--a 20 and a 28 bore. Both were exactly like the one pictured. They are built on Belgium sourced actions, not unlike a Francotte but I do not believe they were the action maker. Roy loved to build bird guns and these surely qualify! In 20 ga, I'd value the gun around 2k retail. 28's bring a premium of perhaps 1/3rd. I've also seen Roy Vail rifles built on Mauser actions and one used a 722 Remington action. He liked varmint calibers and whitetail guns.
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02-09-2016, 07:21 AM | #9 | ||||||
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posted to my own thread... TGO
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