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Unread 01-29-2021, 10:19 AM   #51
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Is the term vermin like "weed" (a plant out of place)? There are many times I feel like humans are the vermin.


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"his clothes are infested with vermin"

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"the vermin who ransacked her house"




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Joe, I hunt deer also and with the bow. I have for the last 63 years. I don’t take a deer very late in the evening any more. Instead of staying in until dark like I used to, I now stop hunting when I no longer have enough light left to follow up a shot. I do it for two reasons, one is that a deer left overnight in Indian Summer weather will spoil and second, coyotes will certainly find it and reduce the carcass to skin and bones very quickly.

I don’t take a deer out of the woods. I carefully bone it out in the woods and take it back to my refrigerator (for aging) in pieces. Invariably, the next day the parts of the carcass I left behind are pretty much cleaned up.
Alas, given my age and eye sight... I rarely stay in the stand until end of shooting light these days. I am VERY careful about any archery shot I take, and if I do not think the shot will lead to a quick recovery, it's a hard pass. The good news in this, is that it's been over 10 years since I wasn't able to recover a deer within an hour of the shot, with most in a matter of minutes as I have seen them expire within 50 yds of me. So, the coyotes have had to wait until I bone out and take the meat I want from the animals. I don't do it where they lay, but bring them up to my cabin where I have a gambrel hanging in the tree which makes the job easy. All the carcass I don't want, gets thrown into a ice fishing sled, and discarded on my place far away from my cabin where the coyotes can enjoy it in peace(Minus the crows and grinners).

As for the coyotes.... We have an over abundance of them in our area. Used to see quite a few red foxes, but that's been years now. I don't hardly put a dent in their numbers, but figure taking them out isn't hurting anything.

I will say this, a coyote is the one animal left in the woods, that no other animal seems to have any interest in eating. And, they do make good targets. :-)
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I have a persistent coyote that has been tracking the deer on my property I cant wait till I can connect with the coyote.
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Sorry. My question was rhetorical ((of a question) asked in order to produce an effect or to make a statement rather than to elicit information.), but Dean's response makes it still a good question to ask.

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ver·min
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Wild animals that are believed to be harmful to crops, farm animals, or game, or that carry disease, e.g., rodents.
parasitic worms or insects.
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I will say this, a coyote is the one animal left in the woods, that no other animal seems to have any interest in eating. And, they do make good targets. :-)[/QUOTE]

funny you posted that, I have put coyote bodies in the woods after I take the hides off of them and nothing eats them ,except maggots, they end up rotting there
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With perfect timing, this article from Shooting Sportsman just popped up in my email. It's interesting that humans are the cause of this invasive species, and yet, our tendency is to blame the ferrel hogs. In Missouri our Conservation Dept. has found that hunting hogs actually allows them to spread because taking one hog from a "sounder" disperses the remaining hogs. So, you cannot hunt them on public land in Missouri, but can on private. These are tough issues, mostly because we humans can't sort them out.

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a buzzard wont eat a coyote or a dog most of the time...charlie
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a buzzard wont eat a coyote or a dog most of the time...charlie
Evidently, neither will a grinner....
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funny you posted that, I have put coyote bodies in the woods after I take the hides off of them and nothing eats them ,except maggots, they end up rotting there
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I gut-shot a coyote while deer hunting about twenty years ago. He ran off like his tail was on fire. I knew he’d die of the wound eventually. Two days later I found his skeletal remains with just his intestines, head and his tail. Everything else had been eaten by his pack mates as evidenced by their tracks in the snow.






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With perfect timing, this article from Shooting Sportsman just popped up in my email. It's interesting that humans are the cause of this invasive species, and yet, our tendency is to blame the ferrel hogs. In Missouri our Conservation Dept. has found that hunting hogs actually allows them to spread because taking one hog from a "sounder" disperses the remaining hogs. So, you cannot hunt them on public land in Missouri, but can on private. These are tough issues, mostly because we humans can't sort them out.

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Those hogs will be dealt with promptly should they ever slow down Warren's train set!
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