Restoration of Fine Sporting Arms - Page 6

MD*GSP · 04-15-2019, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by todd allen

When I was in business, we learned that sometimes it's more about how you handle screw-ups, than how well you did on your great deeds

+ 10,000

Joe Graziano · 04-15-2019, 01:29 PM

That is correct. Since this is now in the open, I will confirm. I met with Mr. Roberts at the gun show this weekend. He gave me a VH frame, though I am not sure the size. My gun is built on a #2 frame. We agreed that, pending the outcome of the gun’s evaluation, it would be repaired, if it is repairable. My Roberts agreed that he would pay the cost of those repairs. If it is not repairable, if it is possible to use the VH frame he provided to rebuild the gun, Mr. Roberts would perform the engraving work on it and pay the cost of rebuilding the gun on that frame. What remains to be discussed, is what to do if the gun is not repairable and the provided frame will not work. It would be preferable for that discussion to take place in private but I am happy to be transparent in that as well. As I said, I will post more after the gun is evaluated.

Joe Graziano · 04-15-2019, 04:02 PM

To update the thread, the gun is a total loss. It was case hardened without being annealed. The frame is warped well beyond repair. Reassembling onto another frame is not possible.

Opening Day · 04-15-2019, 04:31 PM

Damn, and just a few months ago I sold a GH and a DH for cheap money that you could have used. Was it just the frame or also the barrels

B. Dudley · 04-15-2019, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Graziano

To update the thread, the gun is a total loss. It was case hardened without being annealed. The frame is warped well beyond repair. Reassembling onto another frame is not possible.

Huh... then how was the name removed the frame polished and the engraving recut without it being annealed? Not that it could not physically be done, but annealing is a critical step to be done first being any of that sort of work is done.

Bill Murphy · 04-15-2019, 04:47 PM

I guess the most direct way to end this quickly is for you to find a nice VH in a similar condition to your original gun and have the gunsmiths purchase it for you. No fuss, no muss, and it's all over in the time it takes to ship the gun to you. For someone to "build you a gun from parts" can be a long, drawn out and heartbreaking project, both for you and JJ. This is just my suggestion to make it easy for everyone and let everyone depart friends.

Craig Budgeon · 04-16-2019, 05:27 PM

Brian, according to J.D. he spot anneals a surface he is going to touch up using a copper plate and torch. I guess it is well known trick among engravers.

Bill Murphy · 04-16-2019, 06:56 PM

Craig, I don't know who this (JD) guy is, but annealing a spot on a gun won't solve the many problems with this gun.

Craig Budgeon · 04-16-2019, 07:41 PM

Bill, you don't need to know who J.D. is but I know Brian knows him well. My reply is a direct response to Brians post and if the knowledge expressed benefits members, fine. If you read Brians post you'll notice he questions why annealing was not incorporate when the engraving repairs were made. I gave him a reason and wanted him to know the source so that he could find out more if he chooses for the future. J.D. is one of the finest engravers in the country, to my knowledge has NEVER advertised to seek commissions, is a very private person, is semi retired, and a good friend. Enough said.

John D. · 04-16-2019, 07:48 PM

Well - that's it....

This thread is closed for now. All seemed back on track between Joe and J.J. - and both have my complements and well done....

This thread will only be reopened if Joe or JJ have anything further to add and let me know with a PM.

Have a nice evening.

John D.