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Unread 12-27-2009, 02:52 AM   #11
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I think " substantially unused after full restoration" would be more appropriate. You did not offer an opinion on this gun yet represented it as "fun to look at" and then included $$$$$$$$$$$$? Why? Are you trying to sell the gun? Create hype on the gun? Why not just put the pictures on the board and ask the question; Is it real?

I think the gun you posted was created by a talented person or group for the sole purpose of duping the "advanced collector" you so often refer to into the exchange of dollars for opinions of others.
I like the pictures of the gun and especially the engraving, but if you are going to post guns "AS ORIGINAL" either by your own admission or someone else then I think you should also either provide documentation of fact on condition or just post the pics and let people decide what is original or not. Opinions are free and my opinion is that you posted a gun that is a redone FAKE! Thank you

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Mr Lien, the gun is not mine nor was it ever, I have no stake in it, and do not know the identity of the present owner. I have no interest in creating a market or "hype" for the gun, and I have no idea why you would make such absurd accusations.

I didl not say anything about the originality of the gun and left that to others. I knew something about its history, so I stated that. I merely said the gun was interesting. I stated what I knew about the representations of the original owner without further comment.

In view of your reactions and statements, I have deleted the posts.

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Unread 12-27-2009, 08:48 AM   #12
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I kind of liked that gun Bruce, fake or not, found it interesting how it appreciated over a short period of time.
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Unread 12-27-2009, 10:13 AM   #13
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Bruce,
My opinion is: I wish you wouldn't have deleted the note. I found it interesting.
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Yeah Bruce put the pictures back up. Don't succumb to peer pressure

I always enjoy looking at nice guns
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Unread 12-27-2009, 11:43 AM   #15
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It was a very nice gun. The wood looked like a lot like claro walnut to me.Did they use claro in the late production guns? I realize that eastern black walnut also comes in the brighter colors and that photo lighting/wood finish affects the appearance in photos.
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It looked like black walnut to me.
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Well, the colors are so bright and the orange tones look a lot like the blanks I have of claro and also the claro lumber I just got from California. I also have a blank that was sold to me as black and it is very bright and looks a lot like some of the wood on the Parker reproductions.
I find it strange that most wood dealers insist that claro was not used as gunstocks much before the late 50's or early 60's even though there was a lot of it available in some really big trees long before that.
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Unread 12-27-2009, 06:13 PM   #18
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I have received a number of public and private requests to repost the G 20 photos and pay no regard to inappropriate and rude comments. I am inclined to do so with the provision that I am posting them with no comment from me. I am aware that the price escalated quickly. I do not know the gun's present status but it was on the sales circuit a year ago and I have waited a year to post photos.

Presented only as an interesting gun, so I'll try this one more time.
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Unread 12-27-2009, 08:13 PM   #19
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Does that not look like DelGrego's work?
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If it is redone, I'm going with Turnbull.
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