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03-21-2019, 04:38 PM | #13 | |||||||
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I'm thinking very seriously about calling Mr. Hamlin to see if he will check it over for me. He is only 3.5 hours away. Thanks for all the replies! Rob |
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03-21-2019, 08:26 PM | #14 | ||||||
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Rob,
I have sent for a Savage letter before, and it wasn't much help. Perhaps others have had better luck. I don't think Callahan is the person doing it anymore...retired or perhaps passed. Even when there, he tended to offer scant details. And it may be that the limitations were more due to the fact that they simply don't have detailed records. NDG |
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03-22-2019, 11:53 AM | #16 | ||||||
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I talked to Buck Hamlin on the phone this morning and I will be shipping it off Monday.
Thanks for all the replies |
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03-23-2019, 03:20 PM | #17 | ||||||
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Rob,
Very nice find! I am a huge fan of this early era in firearm development. The photos you posted reminded me instantly of a similar design utilized by the Whitney Arms Co.. Eariest examples of their "three trigger" design had no guard on the front trigger (the action opening mechanism) and is quite rare, although I have seen a couple examples. I imagine there were many instances of unintended opening as it snagged on clothing or brambles etc in the field.. The "Second" or "New" model is also pretty rare but it did incorporate a guard. Dates to approximately 1873. The shape and style of the back of the action and hammers as they relate to the breech balls do remind me a bit of the early Wesson Arms double but it appears the Steven's design is unique. I'll try dig my Wesson out later and share photos. |
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03-25-2019, 02:58 PM | #18 | ||||||
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I was just looking at Ed's book and wondering how, or if, the J. Stevens and the Whitney were related. It appears the J. Stevens came along a couple of years after Whitney went belly up.
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03-25-2019, 11:18 PM | #19 | ||||||
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Some quick shots of a Wesson Arms. This was another early design that had an impact on many other makers to come, including Charles Parker. Estimates of total production are roughly 219 units. Wesson doubles were quite pricey for their day 1867-1870, "$175 for the standard grade and $275 for the deluxe grade" (Roy Jinks- S&W Historian) , said to have been made in two grades, but in reality each are quite unique, and those I've seen, of equal build quality.
Interesting Daniel Baird Wesson patents include US#79,434 Dec 9, 1867; US#78,847 June 9, 1868 & US#114,374 May 2, 1871. These innovations ran the gambit of removable locks, to improvements of breech loading locking mechanisms and shell extraction systems. During the three years of production they utilized the Stokes lock US#84,314 Nov 24, 1868. Wesson sold the remaining parts and equipment to Charles Parker in 1870 as the business folded. I still feel the shape of the Stevens action is somewhat reminiscent. I believe Dave is correct, throughout this era there was a lot of "borrowing" of ideas. |
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03-27-2019, 09:55 AM | #20 | ||||||
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I got good news from Mr. Hamlin yesterday. He said the barrels were in great shape. He is going to living the pattern back up while they are there.
I really like the looks of both the Whitney and the Wessons. The J. Stevens looks like a mesh between those two models. |
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