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I would include the Model 21. It is not the same as Parkers and Foxes, but it was (is) the last great sxs. The Model 32 does not belong, though.
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By the way, it is time that the credit for research on the McIntosh Fox book is given to the person or persons who conducted such research. Maybe someone will give credit to those, other than MM, who contributed to the great work.
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The Browning Superposed was made in Belgium, and definately doesn't belong in the front half of Best Guns. The first half of Best Guns is essentially Mike's earlier book, The Best Shotguns Ever Made in America with a back half on guns from the rest of the world. The Best Shotguns Ever Made in America is a compilation of articles Mike wrote for The Missouri Conservationist from December 1977 to December 1978. So the information dates from that time frame.
In a letter I had from Mike during the years I was providing information to him for the Fox book, he stated that neither Best Guns nor The Big-Boring Rifle were labors of love, just things his publisher Countrysport Press wanted. Required work to get the Fox book published. |
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Let's try this in "Other Fine Doubles". Mark
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Don't hunt with a gun that will embarrass your dog! USMC Retired USMC Distinguished Marksman USMC Distinguished Pistol Shot NRA Benefactor - Ring of Freedom member |
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Sorry, considering it was about how these guns fit into a book on that talked about parkers I thought it fit.
I still disagree about the superposed btw. It was again designed by an american and sold by an american company. If the 32 could be in the book then the superposed which predated it would fit. Again, my superposed bias probably coming out in me. The 21, I again consider to be in the same genre of the superposed and the 32. All three were made in a completely different time and completely different culture almost then the other guns that were mentioned. He says in the intro that he expands on the info from the best shotguns made in america book in best guns, specifically a much larger section on Fox. Anyway, again a great read. |
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I've always suspected there may have been some kind of gentleman's agreement between Winchester and Remington, that the boys at Ilion would build an over/under and the boys at New Haven a side-by-side. One of the C.C. Loomis' patents Remington applied to the Model 32 is clearly showing a side-by-side, and at least three of Louis Stiennon's patents assigned to Winchester were for an over/under.
I've always found it odd that Mike didn't include Baker Gun & Forging Co. in those books. |
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I have most of Michael McIntosh's books. The Fox one always seemed to be the best.
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MM sold articles to magazines and books to publishers. He was entertaining, but not a shotgun researcher or a particularly astute student of various makers of shotguns. His written works that exceeded his level of expertise were largely the product of his co-writers. You know who they were. This thread is way above MM's pay grade. However, this subject is well worth pursuing on this site.
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