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11-29-2019, 09:34 PM | #3 | ||||||
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barrels & receiver
Drew,
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11-30-2019, 09:23 AM | #4 | ||||||
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Very nice Jerry. It's a Manufacture Liegeoise D Armes À Feu.
It carries Smokeless Powder proof and has 70mm = 2 3/4" chambers. The barrel weighed 1.4309 Kg = 3.15# at the time of proof. If the barrels were later honed, they would still be in proof if the weight loss was less than 3%. I can't read the numbers, but forward of the flats is the bore over the choke in mm; used c. 1910-1924. The "Acier Special" barrels were also used by Fabrique Nationale Herstal It does not have a lettre annale so it was made prior to 1921 and with 70mm chambers I very much suspect after the end of WWI, which would narrow the DOM to 1919-1920. Cornell Pubs has a 1932 ML catalog reprint which might show the model. Amazing all that can be learned from the Belgian marks!
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11-30-2019, 11:30 AM | #5 | ||||||
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Drew,
Thank you so much for the information. It will go on the tag I keep on the gun. The choke information is: R: 18.3/18.5 then 17.6/18.4 l: 17.6/18.4 r: 18.5 mm = .728 18.3 mm = .720 so I am seeing .008 which is skeet L:18.4 mm = .724 17.6 mm = .692 so I am seeing .032 which is I.M./light full I measured .006 and .030 with my gauge, so obviously the choke in the right barrel was opened. choke is stamped in front of each marking, except the 18.3/18.5 The 17.6/18.4 on each barrel are in line with each other. The 18.3/18.5 on the right barrel is in front of it. Acier Special with a crown and ML below the crown to the left and right of each Acier Special on each barrel. Thanks again. p.s. For insurance purposes, what would anyone estimate the value of this gun? It will never be sold but will go to my oldest son who when he was a little boy was fortunate enough to spend time with my uncle. |
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11-30-2019, 12:31 PM | #6 | ||||||
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The choke and bore next to each other, followed by "CHOKE" was used until c. 1910 Jerry. The gun is probably therefore pre-WWI and I suspect the gun was re-proved prior to 1921, after the right barrel was slightly honed and choke opened.
Cornell Pubs also has a 1908 ML catalog reprint and the gun should be illustrated https://www.cornellpubs.com/old-guns...hp?item_id=469
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12-10-2019, 04:59 PM | #7 | ||||||
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nice heirloom jerry...i m like you these old family guns have a lot of value to me... maybe not in money...but tons of memories...i would value the gun at 1000 dollars....charlie
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12-17-2019, 06:30 PM | #8 | ||||||
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Trempe jaspee refers to hardening or quenching of a precious manner. I feel it is referring to a case hardening finish. I am not fluent so take as you wish.
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