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03-29-2018, 08:40 AM | #3 | ||||||
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If it is a high condition gun in otherwise unaltered condition opening the chokes may have a negative effect on the value of the gun. Especially if it is not done properly. It's not a simple matter of reaming the muzzle several thousandths. Proper and correct choke work on these old Parkers which sometimes have tapers as long as 6" should always be done from the breech to ensure the correct continuation of the choke taper.
Spreader loads generally give you only one less level of choke, e.g., spreader loads will give a full choke barrel a MOD pattern. What are the chokes in your gun Daniel? .
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03-29-2018, 09:03 AM | #4 | ||||||
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I agree with Dean.It is better to leave any high condition "collector" gun unaltered.However,properly opened chokes on a gun that has a little honest wear or has already been altered,(a pad etc.),will not hurt the value.In fact opening the choke to a usable constriction may add value to a shooter.
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03-29-2018, 09:40 AM | #5 | ||||||
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It makes me wonder how many guns over the years have had the chokes opened and no one knows. Not every research letter mentions chokes.
I think to some people it could actually effect the value positively depending on the gun. I’d personally be willing to pay a bit more for a 0 frame 16 IC/MOD than the same gun F/F. |
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03-29-2018, 10:08 AM | #6 | ||||||
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tp me i would not alter the gun if the chokes were not what i liked i would find chokes i liked and buy it....plenty of open choked guns out there....i bet the fello next door has one now....charlie
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03-29-2018, 10:56 AM | #7 | ||||||
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If you do a search on this topic, you will find a number of other threads where the same question has been asked. I am sure the answers to those would apply to yours as well.
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03-29-2018, 11:05 AM | #8 | |||||||
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My 28 gauge 26" VHE came to me with Full/Full chokes and with plastic shot collars I was missing a lot of targets so I had the chokes opened to Skeet 1 and Skeet 2 (.008 and .015). It now produces very effective patterns to about 30 yards. Doing so sure added value for me. .
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03-29-2018, 11:58 AM | #9 | ||||||
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At the end of the day it's your gun and your the guy using it. I'm in agreement if it's a high condition gun I'd leave the chokes alone. I've done it once on a GH 16 0 frame and was very pleased with the results. I bought a DHE 12 with 32 inch barrels that someone opened the right barrel to IC for shooting ducks coming into decoys. IMHO long barrels equate to tight chokes and I sold the gun and bought an unaltered pigeon gun with F/F chokes.
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03-29-2018, 12:05 PM | #10 | ||||||
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I have had chokes opened up on avg condition guns that I was buying to hunt with, in my case that means generally grouse and woodcock. My VH 16 and Sterlingworth 16 were both opened to IC/IC from their original M/F chokes. A friend had an IC 16 ga reamer, so that's how they ended up. Shot alot of birds with those guns, and no regrets. I wouldnt open up a high quality or upper grade gun--I'd just shoot as is,, with spreaders perhaps. I have a very nice VH 20 and a DHE 16 that luckily were choked cyl/m as ordred--I would not have changed those guns.
Opening chokes is a hell of a lot better than cutting barrells --I shoot a VHE 20 and GH 16 that unfortunately were wacked down to 26.5" from 28-- great shooters however.
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