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Unread 05-23-2018, 04:04 PM   #1
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When a Parker gets off face, is there a tendency for the wear to be concentrated more on the hook or the roll joint, or is there no real tendency?

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The joint is case hardened and the hook is not. If that suggests anything.
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Russ Bickell tightened my 2-frame DH beautifully several years ago by welding up my hook and precision cut it for a perfect tight fit. According to Russ he didn't do any work on the roll joint but I suspect he would have polished it.






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Russ Bickell tightened my 2-frame DH beautifully several years ago by welding up my hook and precision cut it for a perfect tight fit. According to Russ he didn't do any work on the roll joint but I suspect he would have polished it.

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Do you mind if I ask about what that cost you? I’m looking at a GH needing to be tightened up a hair.
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The joint is case hardened and the hook is not. If that suggests anything.
How many thousandths larger than stock are the two oversized roll joints you sell?
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Do you mind if I ask about what that cost you? I’m looking at a GH needing to be tightened up a hair.

That was a long time ago and he did other work for me as well, but I believe that part of the work was $450 or $500.

Unfortunately, Russ passed on about five or six years ago.






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How many thousandths larger than stock are the two oversized roll joints you sell?
Original joints that I have removed from guns and measured vary in size. Anywhere from .535" Dimeter to .538" overall Diameter. The oversized joints that I offer are in .540", .545" and .550" diameters.
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Hi Bill,
I used to have one I got from Galazan, but gave to someone that needed it at the time. Are yours still available - I have a 32" DHE Trap in need of one.
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“A hair”?

Is the lever full left and the barrels still loose? Have you determined that it is the joint and not the lock bolt?
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I'm currently using brass shim stock to put the barrels 'on face', but the lever was a tiny bit left of center so I put the wedge (I ordered it with the roll hook) in the barrels. The lever is a little far right, but I'll finish that once I have the jointing correct. The gun was refinished when I bought it, looked very nice with great stock dimensions, the mechanical issues I can deal with. I can make a new roll joint - but it would be easier to start out with an oversize replacement. - take care - Dave
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