Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums  

Go Back   Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums Parker Forums General Parker Discussions

Notices

Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
Calling all 3 Frame 12 gauge's
Unread 02-13-2013, 08:25 AM   #1
Member
J.B. Books
PGCA Member
 
Pete Lester's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,876
Thanks: 1,656
Thanked 4,825 Times in 1,377 Posts

Default Calling all 3 Frame 12 gauge's

The thread discussing Dennis Nix' latest purchase of a 3 frame VH on got me wondering. Factory records I believe did not record frame size. It would appear to me Parker Bros. occasionally built 12ga guns on 3 frames I believe to achieve a desired heavier weight. 3 Frame 12's are not rare but are certainly uncommon.

So how many are out there among us and what are they?

I have a VH with 32" barrels F/F built in 1900 on a three frame, barrel weight stamp is 5', gun is 9 lb even. It was ordered and shipped to the general store in a small Illinois town on the bank of the Mississippee river. 9 pound weight was requested. A lot of barrel swamp. No doubt intended to be and used as a Fowler. The gun was solid with modern dimensions but pretty messed up. Couple of mechanical issues, cold blued frame and barrels and checkering refreshed with a steak knife. I had Larry DeGrego & Son bring it back 100% in 2008.
Pete Lester is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Pete Lester For Your Post:
Unread 02-13-2013, 08:59 AM   #2
Member
Steve Hodges
PGCA Member
 
Stephen Hodges's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,928
Thanks: 6,156
Thanked 3,236 Times in 899 Posts

Default

Hey Pete, how about some pictures of your 3 frame
__________________
Daniel Webster once said ""Men hang out their signs indicative of their respective trades; shoemakers hang out a gigantic shoe; jewelers a monster watch, and the dentist hangs out a gold tooth; but in the mountains of New Hampshire, God Almighty has hung out a sign to show that there He makes men."
Stephen Hodges is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Stephen Hodges For Your Post:
Unread 02-13-2013, 09:47 AM   #3
Member
Big Friend Ten (BFT)
PGCA Lifetime Member
 
Mark Ouellette's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,046
Thanks: 1,517
Thanked 2,933 Times in 795 Posts

Default

Pete and all,

I own a high condition DH Damascus 34" 12 gauge built on a #3 frame. This Parker weighs 10 pounds even and is choked with .040" in each barrel.

Mark
__________________
Don't hunt with a gun that will embarrass your dog!

USMC Retired
USMC Distinguished Marksman
USMC Distinguished Pistol Shot
NRA Benefactor - Ring of Freedom member
Mark Ouellette is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Mark Ouellette For Your Post:
Unread 02-13-2013, 09:50 AM   #4
Member
Don Kaas
Forum Associate
 
Don Kaas's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 560
Thanks: 0
Thanked 222 Times in 91 Posts

Default

I have a 34" DHE 12 gauge straight grip on a 3 frame. A friend down in Mississippi has a 32" DH on a #3 frame I used to own as well. Destry has a #3 frame DHE he is quite fond of
Don Kaas is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Don Kaas For Your Post:
Unread 02-13-2013, 09:54 AM   #5
Member
J.B. Books
PGCA Member
 
Pete Lester's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,876
Thanks: 1,656
Thanked 4,825 Times in 1,377 Posts

Default

Steve asked for pictures. Reminds me I need to take some. I think after nearly 5 years the cc has faded some but this is how it looked when I brought home from LD&S in '08. My recall is both barrels are .036 constriction.

I'd like to see pic's of those D grades.

Pete Lester is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Pete Lester For Your Post:
Unread 02-13-2013, 10:45 AM   #6
Member
Mills
PGCA Lifetime Member
Since 3rd Grade
 
Mills Morrison's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 10,323
Thanks: 14,238
Thanked 12,360 Times in 4,428 Posts

Default

I have 12 gauge, 30", size 3, Twist barrels which are going on my DH 10 project.
Mills Morrison is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02-13-2013, 01:49 PM   #7
Member
MarketHunter
PGCA Member
 
Destry L. Hoffard's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 5,160
Thanks: 599
Thanked 4,045 Times in 1,173 Posts

Default

Don is correct, "The Swamp Angel" and I are near constant companions in the duck blind. I think I killed every goose I shot last year with it as well. The big magnum 10 gauge was jealous, it's not been out of the house in a couple years.

Destry
__________________
I was as virtuously given as a gentleman need to be; virtuous enough; swore little; diced not above seven times a week; went to a bawdy-house once in a quarter--of an hour; paid money that I borrowed, three of four times; lived well and in good compass: and now I live out of all order, out of all compass. Falstaff - Henry IV
Destry L. Hoffard is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 02-13-2013, 02:00 PM   #8
Member
Eldon Goddard
PGCA Lifetime
Member

Member Info
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 841
Thanks: 312
Thanked 389 Times in 169 Posts

Default

I thought since it is the only Parker I own I would put in some pictures of mine. It is aVHE 12 gauge 3 frame 34'' barrels made in 1912. I bought it in 2005 several parts were parkerized including the barrels. I had the barrels reblued by Turnbull and am still working on saving for a complete metal restoration. I put some pictures of the forearm on to get an collective opinion on whether or not I should do a complete restoration. As far as I know the wood is untouched it has the exact dimensions as the letter gives 15'' LOP and 3 1/2'' drop at heel.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_2863.JPG.jpg (331.8 KB, 4 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_2865.JPG.jpg (434.5 KB, 9 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_2866.JPG.jpg (317.5 KB, 4 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_2868.JPG.jpg (449.2 KB, 4 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_2870.JPG.jpg (371.3 KB, 4 views)
Eldon Goddard is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Eldon Goddard For Your Post:
Unread 02-13-2013, 02:02 PM   #9
Member
Eldon Goddard
PGCA Lifetime
Member

Member Info
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 841
Thanks: 312
Thanked 389 Times in 169 Posts

Default

Some more.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_2873.JPG.jpg (446.1 KB, 8 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_2876.JPG.jpg (411.7 KB, 3 views)
Eldon Goddard is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Eldon Goddard For Your Post:
Unread 02-13-2013, 02:55 PM   #10
Member
Bill Murphy
PGCA Lifetime
Member Since
Second Grade

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 15,617
Thanks: 6,188
Thanked 8,893 Times in 4,768 Posts

Default

What a great gun for your only Parker. Some years ago, I traded a wonderful minty postwar 38-44 Outdoorsman for my cased DH 12 gauge Damascus factory two barrel set on the #3 frame. It's a pretty nice gun with pinned cheeks and outrageous barrels, 30" and 28", and skeleton butt. My DH Lefever sleeved mag ten was originally a #3 frame 32" Damascus twelve, also with skeleton butt. My "new to me" ex Austin Hogan extremely late lifter 12 is also on a #3 frame. In my experience, this is a real rarity, but I may be wrong about that. Of course, my little 28" 16 gauge Wisconsin grouse gun is also a #3 frame, but I guess this thread is about 12 gauges.
Bill Murphy is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Bill Murphy For Your Post:
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:02 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1998 - 2024, Parkerguns.org
Copyright © 2004 Design par Megatekno
- 2008 style update 3.7 avec l'autorisation de son auteur par Stradfred.