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Unread 04-05-2018, 12:51 PM   #21
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I think the value also depends on the grade and gauge of the gun. Small bores always bring more. Several years ago I bought a GH 20 with 30 inch Damascus barrels that had been completely restored by Doug Turnbull. The gun came from a member here and he based the asking price on condition (after restoration it was as new) and rarity. We came to terms and I've enjoyed it for quite a while.

IMHO the breakdown is 90%+ original condition bring the highest price, professionally and correctly restored is 70-75% of that and the gun with honest wear but serviceable will bring the fair market value of that particular grade and gauge.

The above mentioned GH is the only fully restored gun I own or have ever owned. I've replaced pads and restocked a couple that were so horrid I couldn't shoot the gun and have had a couple of Damascus barrels refinished. Wrong? Perhaps but there guns I use regularly and it will be the next guys issues not mine.
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Gents, i hope and pray that if and when your girl friend or wife tells you that she plans to have some cosmetic surgery to improve her looks that you wont tell her she's devaluing herself. Lol
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Great analogy. Some of us like all natural, wrinkles, sags and all, while others like their woman to be forever young. I think aging gracefully works with Parkers as well as people.
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Very well said David.






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Gents, i hope and pray that if and when your girl friend or wife tells you that she plans to have some cosmetic surgery to improve her looks that you wont tell her she's devaluing herself. Lol
No, but you better check to make sure she is not having an affair
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Most "improvements" to a woman turn out bad.
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I'm not sure about that Bill. Some, perhaps many Parkers age gracefully if and when taken good care of. And there is certainly beauty and value in an 'aged' Parker that still retains it's proper conformation (to use a dog breeder's term). A Parker that has not aged well, been abused, rode hard and put away wet may be a candidate for cosmetic or more comprehensive surgery. At the end f the day though, isn't beauty and value in the eyes of the beholder. (I'm using the tem value in the broadest sense).

One of the Parkers that I have inherited is a 16 ga VH purchased by my grandfather in Boston sometime during the 1920's. Granddad hunted this 16 ga heavily in the coverts around Hooksett and Bow NH with his 4 sons, all of who carried Parkers. When he passed away, my dad inherited this little 16 and as it was his gun of choice he hunted it pretty hard. By the time I inherited it, the head of the stock was so oil soaked it felt like mush, The head had been pinned previously and there was way too much drop to the stock. Granddad had ordered it to his specs. Realizing that this 16 was not/had not aged gracefully I decided more for posterity and wanting one of my grandsons to inherit it, I had DelGrego re-stock it to modern dimensions and re-case color the frame and forend latch metal. As a family heirloom, value to me....Priceless.
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The money used for lift and separate, nip and tuck would be better spent on a nice small bore

To restore an original (not abused) gun is wrong and a 60+ year old woman with 25 year old boobs is just as wrong
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If a 60 yr old woman wants a nip and tuck and desires to feel better about herself and the way she presents herself to the world and in consult with her physician, that's her decision and who are we to judge..

To restore a gun that has not been abused is in my opinion neither right nor wrong depending on the circumstances and reasoning for the restoration. And whether it increases the value of the gun or not is a consequence the owner bears responsibility for. I would hope that after we are long gone that shooting sports in this country (and elsewhere) continue to thrive and that Parker double guns remain in the hands of future generations whether restored or not, and valued as one of America's classic shotguns.
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I try to avoid the pull of project guns but I have fallen in love with a few that where spot on my collecting interest. I felt an obligation to rescue a few even tho I much prefer original condition. I realize that they will never be equal in value to original but try to do the minimal amount of restoration to maintain the character without completely wiping away it's history. Thankfully we have craftsman that also understand our desire to keep then as original as possible and put them into a shootable condition. However the more restoration the more the value is depreciated. I cringe when good shootable guns are fully restored and I believe the market agrees. If in the future the cost of original guns becomes unapproachable for all but a few then restored guns will become more sought after but we still live in a time when original condition guns are still affordable.
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