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03-21-2011, 06:48 AM | #33 | ||||||
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David,
Heavy guns such as Parkers with #4 Frames were typically for duck and goose hunting. Many of the old duck guns just were not cared for as they should have been. This includes not cleaning the bores or over cleaning and oiling the stock! If one finds a #4 Frame gun that is shootable or at least restorable it is somewhat rare. When we factor that into a small number built (someone with TPS handy please comment as to how many) the number of surviving #4 or larger frames get pretty small. Mark |
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03-23-2011, 01:09 PM | #34 | ||||||
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Both Greener and Parker are awesome Hammer Guns. I sold my Greener because of a personal preference for Parkers. Also, I can go to this board or Parker functions and talk to real experts about any aspect of the Parker gun. I'm not aware of Greener having anything like that. When shooting old guns I like knowing there is in depth, expert advice just a click away
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03-23-2011, 02:01 PM | #35 | ||||||
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My experience is that many or most #4 frame tens were built for pigeons. Many I have seen are provenanced to known competition shooters and are specified at 11 pounds and 32" barrels and in the higher grades. Does anyone know of a #4 frame gun in Zero Grade? I don't know of one below Grade 3. Three higher grade #4 frame top lever guns have 33" barrels, and all three of those were ordered at 11 pounds for known competition shooters. They were not duck guns. I do know of one big gun made for a competition shooter that was a waterfowl gun, but that is a "real" big gun.
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03-23-2011, 02:20 PM | #36 | ||||||
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My 4 frame gun is a 30 inch, grade 2, with a duck on the lower frame. Its a lifter with the 1882 improvments. No checkering and a little under 11 lbs.
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03-23-2011, 06:08 PM | #37 | ||||||
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Do you have a PGCA letter on this gun? If you will share the letter with us, we may be able to tell you whether the purchaser was a duck hunter or a pigeon shooter.
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03-23-2011, 08:20 PM | #38 | ||||||
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Bill, I really didn't think this gun was special enough to warrant a letter. This discussion has told me that it is somewhat rare, I didn't know. I have gotten 4 letters in the last year and only one led me to a well known shooter. I suppose this one would probably be a good one to get. The gun came from california and is in very good condition. The tubes inside and out are near perfect. and that surprises me.
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03-28-2011, 10:19 AM | #39 | ||||||
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Mr. Murphy,
I know of a grade zero or one 10 bore on a #4 frame with 32" barrels that resides in Virginia. It appears to be a duck/goose gun for certain. My old #4 frame grade 3 10 with 32" barrels was as yours a box bird gun. Mr. Carmichael, One day you and I will get together on that 34" #3 frame gun. I am just not ready yet. , monetarily I mean. |
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04-16-2011, 10:03 AM | #40 | ||||||
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Bill, I recieved letter on said gun and reads as follows--Ordered by Howell and Glano in Cincinnati, Ohio on May 17, 1882 and shipped on July 25, 1882.Quality 2 hammer, 10 ga. Dam. 30 " lop 14.5 dah 3 wgt 11 pounds. The wood has obviously been replaced along the way. It has 4" dah. That is why there is no checking. As nice as the metal is I should probably get some new wood put on it. 3" dah works good but 4" is a little cumbersome for me. Have you heard of Howell and Glano?
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