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Unread 12-22-2012, 11:34 AM   #31
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Jay what you said really turns my stomach without the NRA you should just leave those nice guns on the front door step to be picked up for garbage . This is the only group that actually is fighting for your right to keep them I dont see the media talking about anyone but them. If our President can be guarded by armed guards why cant my son ? I think I better stop !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If the thought of militarizing our schools doesn't turn everyone's stomach then our country is truly beyond hope. If we are at a point where the only defense against fellow citizens who would harm us with guns is to carry a gun are we truly free? Does that sound like the freedom those who wrote the Bill of Rights foresaw?

The WL did more to jeopardize our 2nd A rights yesterday than all of the mass shootings combined and we all had better be ready for the blow-back because it will come swiftly and the ONLY real power the NRA has comes through political threats and there are not going to be a lot of legislators who are going to roll over this time.
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Than guess what WAKE UP WERE NOT FREE !!!
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Wasn't it the armed citizens that gave us our freedom in the first place? The true fact is that we have let ourselves be out manuvered by politics and by people that are scared of us standing up for ourselves. We have let the government regulate us, instead of us regulating the govnment.
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I would like to see how FREELY you could walk down some of these big city streets at 11:00 at night for lets say a 2 mile walk up and back
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Wasn't it the armed citizens that gave us our freedom in the first place? The true fact is that we have let ourselves be out manuvered by politics and by people that are scared of us standing up for ourselves. We have let the government regulate us, instead of us regulating the govnment.
From that we obtained the right to vote for our leaders and our government. So you are saying if enough people do not agree with the majority in an election then it's ok to take up arms against the majority?
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I would like to see how FREELY you could walk down some of these big city streets at 11:00 at night for lets say a 2 mile walk up and back
There is a great difference than walking down a street at night and waking into en elementary school and if you can't grasp that then you have a warped sense of reality.
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Unread 12-22-2012, 01:12 PM   #37
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In the last 10 years or so, whenever authorities hear of a "threat", real or imagined in a school, or a police officer is called in with his dog for a locker check, there is a "lockdown". Sure sounds like a prison to me.
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In my warped sense of reality I am seeing people killed walking down streets and in schools so what kind of defense do either have ? Is that not reality !
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Steve and Jay, We all know there is no easy solution to this dilemma. You both have valid points but I feel if you guy's want to continue this discussion it would be better to do it off line. Can we get back to Parkers and related topics? Please...
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Personally, I like Parkers.


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