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Unread 02-04-2012, 12:03 PM   #11
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fellas i was wrong in calling them batter pliers....my son informed me the pliers are really a set of plumber crimping tool for some kinda pipe they use...ive always thought they were battery pliars...well sorry for the mistake in names but i will find the proper name for them and post...will try a picture of them tonite...just done a hull in 15 secounds but i was hustling...with a lille bit of more tweaking these pliers can do what the dyes do in as short of time... charlie
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I suppose I need to get myself an 8 gauge Parker before I start with the loading !

But I suppose in the overall spectrum of things it wouldn't hurt to be prepared in advance !
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craig you will like the old 8 ga s just wish the price on them were not so high...but there are some shooters out there but they will set you back more than 10 ga s but still affordable...back to reloading...takes very few tools get a set of these plumbers crimpers and order you some hulls and youall be a 8 ga man for life...one thing i always wanted more than an 8 was a 4 bore.... charlie
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craig you will like the old 8 ga s just wish the price on them were not so high...but there are some shooters out there but they will set you back more than 10 ga s but still affordable...back to reloading...takes very few tools get a set of these plumbers crimpers and order you some hulls and youall be a 8 ga man for life...one thing i always wanted more than an 8 was a 4 bore.... charlie
I passed by within 80 miles or so of you saturday Charlie !

Wish I had been traveling alone as I would have made a detour !

While I was hunting in Arkansas I made a point of getting the game regs from AR , LA and MS .

The 4 bore is a bit over the top even for me

Now a nice old english 8 bore with Paradox would certainly be intresting !
We've had two of those go thru our shop in the last 2 years although I wasn't able to shoot either . One had a full kit with it for reloading buck or ball !
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Charlie I've been hammrred plenty by 375's, 416's and even 505 Gibbs rifles . But the worst I ever got popped by a BIG GUN was a nice old Ruger #1H I had for awhile in 458 WIN MAG .

Now at the same time I had the Ruger #1H's I still have that are in 375 H&H MAG as well as 416 REM MAG . That 458 with a 500 grain bullet would flat knock the shite out of you compared to those other two .

Heck about that time I was working up a load for a friends CZ550 in 505 Gibbs and that one with a 525 grain bullet kicked nowhere near as bad as that 458 Ruger #1H !

But with all that said I would "expect" a 4 bore to recoil a good bit more then any of the ones I've messed with to date .
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craig i dont think the 4 bore would kick as bad as your ruger 458 on account of the weight of the 4 bore...boy them paradox guns have always interested me....ive never got to fire any of those old big rifles but ive got a 3 1/2 inch 12 ga single barrel new england gun that will make you gun shy with in a couple of rounds...some of these guns they make now are just to lite..if i shot a lot of them big kickers i would get me one of those stocks that got a shock built in it....i have fired a 3 ounce load of shot thru a 8 ga fa loomis and it will walk you backwards usally a step and a half some times 2 steps but the kick does not hurt you like thelite magnum 10 s and 12 ga will....im envious of you getting to shoot all them big bore rifles...wish you coulda swung by for a minute we woulda had good talk about guns and hunting.... charlie
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ps ive took some pictures of the plumbers pliars this morning will try to post shortly.... charlie
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hope they got thru this time... charlie
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well ive not found the proper name for the pipe crimpers yet but my son says there for 1/2 inch pipe.... were gonna try a 7 /8 drill bit through them ...think this will make them a little smoother inside andtake less times to grip down on handles.. hoping todo it in one squeeze no more than two....let yall no soon..... charlie
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....im envious of you getting to shoot all them big bore rifles...wish you coulda swung by for a minute we woulda had good talk about guns and hunting.... charlie
Perhaps if I'm able to make the trip next year I can come a couple days early and slide by to to see you for a couple days and maybe even kill a deer if you know of some public spots I can hunt !

I'll drag along my 416 REM MAG and possibly my buddies 505 Gibbs for you to touch a couple off .
I have another friend with a nice C Sharps 1874 in 45-100 with a quality Malcolm type scope on top . Might see if he'd be willing to let me use that one down south next year ! And that would be legal in your state ! As would my hammer drilling with the two 16 gauge pipes and the 10.75x65R Collath rifle barrel
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