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I talked recently with the PA Dealer that Ernie invites to his Northeast SxS and learned he’ll be at HH all three days to do Form 4473 transfers. His fee is $50. per gun as in the past.
FYI, just sayin that gun sales by PA Dealers to NY residents have gotten more complicated recently, to require an extra step for the Dealer to review the Form 4473 with a NYS? agent; and I know of several instances wherein the Dealer was on hold in queue for almost one hour. A local dealer told me he gives up after waiting for an inordinate time and declines doing the sale. Given that the phone service isn’t the best there at HH that may complicate things for gun sales to NY residents. |
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05-13-2023, 12:52 PM | #4 | ||||||
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As a PA dealer, I will not sell pump and semi auto shotguns, handguns or rifles to NY residents. If we even violate the NY Un-SAFE Act, the Nazi AG Letitia James will go after everyone involved with the sale. Won't sell to NJ residents either.
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05-13-2023, 06:33 PM | #5 | ||||||
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Stick to pre-1897 guns only.
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05-13-2023, 10:37 PM | #6 | ||||||
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05-14-2023, 12:37 AM | #7 | ||||||
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Kinda hard to enforce with so many already running under the radar
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Frank I have never heard of a review with a NYS agent. Does anyone know where that regulation is written??
There is a pending law in NYS to limit ammo purchases of all types to 80 rounds per month when the ammo background system goes live. If that passes This will kill the shooting sports in NYS. If this happens it will be the straw that breaks my back, I'm moving south. |
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05-14-2023, 08:50 AM | #9 | |||||||
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Yeah. This is news to me. The transfers I have conducted recently have been business as usual. And the NICS is a fed deal, i do not see them forwarding calls to a state agent. When a transaction requires further review (which is not a new thing). The call is placed on hold and sent to a NICS examiner. The difference being that the initial person is a call center employee. Who is outside contracted and their only job is to plug in the 4473 info into the computer and wait for the reply from the system. The NICS examiner is exactly that, an actual FBI employee who is there to actually look at the records that tripped concern and they then allow, delay or deny the transaction.
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05-14-2023, 02:08 PM | #10 | ||||||
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It's not a NYS agent that the check is turned over to. When we run a mandated check on the PICS system, a non-resident buyer check is kicked over to an operator. Therefore we wait until an operator is available, then we have to give them the out-of-state-buyer info and wait again as they do the check. I have had to wait up to 90-100 minutes on hold until final approval of the sale. If the check takes too long and you hang up you still have to pay the fee as all dealer info is punched into the system first, before it kicks over to the sale.
Our County Sheriff is a great guy and totally pro-2nd Amendment. He personally called every dealer in our County and told them to be wary of selling to NYS residents. He said we will be dragged into court in NYS by the AG if in any way the un-SAFE act is violated or any other draconian leftist anti-gun law is violated. |
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