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Unread 01-23-2023, 03:42 PM   #1
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Can anyone help me grade this? Picked it up yesterday at our local gunshow before the doors opened.

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Grade should be on the action flat. My Paragon was P.E.S. (Paragon, Ejector, ?)

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I never knew that. Thx Joe!

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Your gun is a Paragon. Whether it is marked on the watertable or not is a time frame thing. Paragon Krupp serial number 815 has very similar engraving and is not marked on the watertable.

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Yes, mine was similarly engraved. I believe mine was marked 943 P.E.S.. Never knew what the S stood for....?
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I was kind of leaning that way Researcher. I was looking at an old black an white vintage ad. Mine is # 711.
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Those dogs are beautifully done; Jos. Loy?
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The gun in question is probably a Special Paragon . The bit of extra engraving at the front of the lockplate is a key. Usually the Special Paragon had a point pattern checkering while the Standard Paragon did not.

P.E.S. marked on the gun would be Paragon, Ejector, Steel [barrels]. Over the years, Baker marked grades on the guns, then discontinued that, and then later marked the grades again. P.K.E /nn would be Paragon, Krupp, Ejector, in model 1909. [a different mechanical design] L.E.S was L Grade, Ejector, Steel [for fluid steel barrels] One will see other combinations of the letter markings depending on Grade, ejectors, triggers, and barrel material.

Engraving on the guns shown above was done by Frank Mason, who really had a good feel for the dog engraving.

If you wish to know more about Baker Guns, Drew Hause saved the old BakerCollectors website to - http://www.bakercollectors.com/ When looking at the website and selecting something from the Table Of Contents, click on the Table Of Contents item, then click on it again when a new screen appears. Lots of information and photos.
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Chris, hope you'll show me your new Baker when I'm back in Phoenix in late February and early March. Looks like a excellent addition to your collection.
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Thx Daryl, that was very helpful! Ill explore the Baker sight.
Yes Scott, it will be here for you to see!
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