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02-19-2018, 11:41 AM | #3 | ||||||
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I was planning on using BP with whatever non toxic shot I would go with. I am not interested in shooting nitro powder out of brass, it just doesn't seem right. I like to make smoke.
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02-19-2018, 12:47 PM | #4 | ||||||
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Hi Matt,
There are people who load bismuth and ITX for waterfowl hunting. You will have to weigh the lead-free shot instead of going by the traditional volume method. Or weigh it and then use the appropriate scoop to speed things up during loading. You may already have this...I highly recommend this brass shell loading guide by PGCA member Forrest Grilley. He discusses and gives brass shell loading instructions including bismuth in this manual. It's a great resource! |
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02-19-2018, 05:20 PM | #5 | ||||||
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There isn't a whole lot to loading BP shells. If you look at a old measure a 1 1/8oz of shot/ 72grs of BP, 1 1/4oz/82grs, and 1 3/8/ 88grs of BP. You want a little more velocity then use a little more powder. If I remember correctly [ and circlefly doesn't have it anymore on their website ] a 10ga wad was used in a 12ga brass shell. At least the OP and OS wad was 10ga, and a 11ga cushion wad. At least that was the way I did it. I liked a good tight fit and seal for the OP wad, and the same to hold the shot in even though I still glued the OS wad in place. So for a 10ga you'd want 8 and 9 ga wads. At least that's what I'd do for Magtechs. Maybe you have turned shells that are thicker. In that case mic the shells and order the correct size for them. You can email Graig at circlefly for any questions. Good luck - nice to see you're using smoke.
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02-19-2018, 05:27 PM | #6 | ||||||
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I think track of the wolf Parker brass shells are turned from solid stock. Rocky Mountain does the work and they aren't going to be doing it much longer. If so, you can then just use 10ga wads - you may want to ask at Track of the Wolf. And for 5 or 6$ the book may not be such a bad deal.
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02-21-2018, 08:32 AM | #7 | ||||||
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I have tried water glass to secure the over shot card and didn't like it. The set up time was long and they would crack if held over for the next season. I use a hot glue gun to hold the OS card. It sets up immediately.
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02-21-2018, 10:40 AM | #8 | ||||||
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Charile holds the OS card down with some pressure when gluing the OS card and using nitro powders. I just used some Elmer's white glue when doing BP shells - they don't seem to care so much about wad pressure or resistance. And I'm sure you know not to use plastic wads - they'll melt in the barrel with smoke. A real pain to clean.
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02-21-2018, 02:59 PM | #9 | ||||||
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Thanks for all the information. I have purchased the book and I'm going to try loading some Bismuth shot in the brass with BP.
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02-22-2018, 11:25 AM | #10 | ||||||
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To deprime I used a dowel with a nail in the center. To prime use another dowel and con cave the end so it fits around the primer pocket sticking up in the shell. You can stand the shell up a bit to deprime, and I just put a primer on my wood bench top, put the shell over it, and whack it with the dowel inside. Use the same dowel to prime to seat the wads. Sometimes you have to get a over size dowel and turn it down with a file. If you have or know someone with a metal lathe you're all set to make out of steel. Or if the shells are the right size a Mec jr would work just fine.
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