Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums  

Go Back   Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums Non-Parker Specific & General Discussions Shotgun Shell Reloading

Notices

Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
572/MEC bushings
Unread 05-18-2024, 07:48 AM   #1
Member
john pulis
PGCA Member

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 589
Thanks: 1,534
Thanked 257 Times in 180 Posts

Default 572/MEC bushings

Has anyone worked out grains per bushing for Winchester 572 powder? I searched the MEC website but could not locate an updated bushing powder chart. 572 was not cited.

Kind regards,
John
john pulis is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 05-18-2024, 09:48 AM   #2
Member
edgarspencer
PGCA Member
 
edgarspencer's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,148
Thanks: 2,984
Thanked 11,684 Times in 3,143 Posts

Default

John, I found 572 meters a little inconsistently. 572 is more consistent for me on the 600Jr, than it is on the 9000.The charts are a good starting point, but what one guy gets on his press may not be the same as another guy, especially if presses are different. All that, and I find it dirty too. Looks like it will come down to what's available.
edgarspencer is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to edgarspencer For Your Post:
Unread 05-18-2024, 05:09 PM   #3
Member
J.B. Books
PGCA Member
 
Pete Lester's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,916
Thanks: 1,679
Thanked 4,967 Times in 1,406 Posts

Default

Hodgdon say it meters the same as Longshot. As always confirm with your scale. I literally just got some to try but looking at how little volume this powder takes up it will require a tall wad for 20 ga 7/8 ounce loadings (you might have to substitute the CB 3/4 wad where it lists the CB 7/8 wad. If you are looking for low pressure in a 20ga with 7/8 oz the Federal hull is the best choice listed especially if you keep velocity at 1150.

https://hodgdonpowderco.com/wp-conte...art-2017-1.pdf
__________________
Progress is the mortal enemy of the Outdoorsman.
Pete Lester is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Pete Lester For Your Post:
Unread 05-18-2024, 06:50 PM   #4
Member
edgarspencer
PGCA Member
 
edgarspencer's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,148
Thanks: 2,984
Thanked 11,684 Times in 3,143 Posts

Default

Pete, while you can use the same bushing, grain for grain, the 572 has greater deviation than Longshot. The 572 bottle says "Clean Burning", but that was not my experience.
I tried 100 rounds of 28ga using 572, and I too found the volume an issue. Fortunately I have a good variety of wads. I think I ended up using the BP2895, but that wad is too expensive. My normal, RO-28 Fiocchi wad and 20/28 gives me my best 3/4oz crimp (I'm loading only 2 1/2")
I went to Cabelas for shot today, and they did have plenty of Longshot and 572 on the shelf.
edgarspencer is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to edgarspencer For Your Post:
Unread 05-18-2024, 07:08 PM   #5
Member
john pulis
PGCA Member

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 589
Thanks: 1,534
Thanked 257 Times in 180 Posts

Default

Thanks all. Advice needed.
john pulis is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to john pulis For Your Post:
Unread 05-18-2024, 07:51 PM   #6
Member
J.B. Books
PGCA Member
 
Pete Lester's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,916
Thanks: 1,679
Thanked 4,967 Times in 1,406 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by edgarspencer View Post
Pete, while you can use the same bushing, grain for grain, the 572 has greater deviation than Longshot. The 572 bottle says "Clean Burning", but that was not my experience.
I tried 100 rounds of 28ga using 572, and I too found the volume an issue. Fortunately I have a good variety of wads. I think I ended up using the BP2895, but that wad is too expensive. My normal, RO-28 Fiocchi wad and 20/28 gives me my best 3/4oz crimp (I'm loading only 2 1/2")
I went to Cabelas for shot today, and they did have plenty of Longshot and 572 on the shelf.
With the powder shortage and Alliant suspending their production it seems we have to shoot what we can find. I will always prefer Alliant powders and have a good supply but it won't last forever and as the saying goes beggars can't be choosers. Hoping the 572 will make 20ga loads that go boom.
__________________
Progress is the mortal enemy of the Outdoorsman.
Pete Lester is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Pete Lester For Your Post:
Unread 05-19-2024, 07:06 AM   #7
Member
john pulis
PGCA Member

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 589
Thanks: 1,534
Thanked 257 Times in 180 Posts

Default

Pete,

That was my thinking about powder shortage. CAC had 17 572 4 pounders so I figured I should purchase some before they too disappear. I also purchased 8 lbs of Bullseye, yes, not the best but the old Hercules manual had several 7/8 loads. CAC had 49 in stock. Beggars can’t by chooses.

Thanks all,
John
john pulis is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to john pulis For Your Post:
Unread 05-19-2024, 07:30 AM   #8
Member
6pt-Sika
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
CraigThompson's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 8,643
Thanks: 5,641
Thanked 7,697 Times in 3,465 Posts

Default

I had I think 24 pounds of 572 and sold about half of it . Don’t remmember what application I planned using it for .
__________________
Parker’s , 6.5mm’s , Mannlicher Schoenauer’s and my family in the Philippines !
CraigThompson is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:15 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1998 - 2024, Parkerguns.org
Copyright © 2004 Design par Megatekno
- 2008 style update 3.7 avec l'autorisation de son auteur par Stradfred.