When Jerrys/Ellet Brothers we’re giving up the ghost I bought 10 or 12 flats of 16 gauge for the hulls if nothing else . Bought Remington stuff for less then $60@ flat and Winchester for less than $65@ flat . Once I’m thru all those shells I’ll have about 5,000 16 gauge hulls counting the others I already had . I think that oughtta be enough to get me they the next 20-25 years after that I’ll probably be dead or to decrepit to shoot .