harry i was able to hold them in my hand. roll crimpingis new to me but i like the results of this tool. i loaded up mu hunting rounds with it gonna try it on crows in the morning. i loaded up the 3 1/4 inch winchester hull. primer 209 winchester primer.. 40 grains of alliant blue dot.used1/2 powder wad then used remington SP 8 plastic wadding.. then 1 3/4 ounce of no 6 shot. then split a 1/8 inch spaser and used it over shot then rolled crimped it with the ballistic products crimping tool.. made a fairly good crimp.. but just for shooting at targets i still prefer not to crimp my shells.you can get a lot more loads out of a casing if you do not crimp it. this load i loaded up is a real pleasure to shoot hardly any recoil.but guns weigh in at 13 1/2 pounds and 15 pounds . this load out performs my 10 ga loads. charlie
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