them went in a hurry...i bet the heavy clyinder is forresizeing the brass on the industrial shell to were it will fit in a shotgun....i have such a tool it really works great on those black remington hulls to me they are the toughest one to resize but the big clyinder does the job with the help of a press....press in and out in about 20 secounds...somebody got a good deal on this 8 ga stuff...charlie
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