Garry - this is what I made reference to on page 1 of this thread. The engraver who engraved the two dogs on this DH appears to have been the same that did the one you showed us earlier. I think everyone will agree that these two dogs are decidedly male.
And again, I believe the engraver to have been Frederick W. Anschutz.
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"I'm a Setter man.
Not because I think they're better than the other breeds,
but because I'm a romantic - stuck on tradition - and to me, a Setter just "belongs" in the grouse picture."
George King, "That's Ruff", 2010 - a timeless classic.
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