milt on my 8 ga die i dont even have to use any oil works fine on any 8 ga hull made i have seen so far...press down for sizeing and then i turn it over and use a 3/8 size extension from my craftsman tools and press it out....perfect every time....when i first loaded 8 ga hulls i used a set of coduit wire pliers to shape the hull they did not look very pretty but it worked real good...just a idea for you.....charlie
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