austin you hit the nail on the head.... and i also could not open up the chokes on my guns.. one of those old poly chokes was probably the best all around choke ever made...you had all the ckokes with you from extra full to cly...but them things were as ugly as home made sin and would not a parker with double pollys be double ugly... charlie

OK, OK, not a Parker but...
 

New to me 20 gauge, Winchester choked Full/Mod.
Patterned at 40 yards, 80% and 60% inside a 30" circle. Shot a 24 then a 25 using a Spreader on the incomer on all pairs and station 8.
+1 for Mr. Hogan, just center the pattern.
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Pretty sure WS1 & WS2 chokes are actually back from the muzzle a short ways. Much like the spreader choke is on a Cutts. I have measured several original Winchester Skeet guns and this is what I have found. Are the Parker factory skeet chokes done in a similar way? Unfortunatly, I don't own a Parker Skeet gun to measure...
JJV

I wonder how many of will tell the truth, Have you ever sawed off a barrel? Gerald. P.S. I will bet most of us over 60 years old have,:corn:

The one i am looking to buy is a winchester 21 vent rib 26, inch skeet 1 & 2 12 ga Thanks for the help

OK,OK, these aren't Parkers either but...
 

Here's a pair or 21's, both WS-1 and WS-2. Top is a 12, 26" Flatside. Bottom is a 20, 28" Skeet.
While not Parkers, they've yet to embarrass me on a Skeet field. That being said, I think Parker (Remington) truly nailed Skeet chokes with their Skeet In/Skeet Out constriction combination. Really right on for the game, much more than WS-2/WS-1 (L.Mod/Skeet).
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My W21- 28 inch- ws1 and ws 2 is 5 and 8 thous. constriction. Perfect for skeet and upland birds. The wood is to pretty to field hunt.

David, What is your constrictions (if any) at very muzzle ends?

Could'nt agree more with Ed and Bill. Don't touch those beautiful original Parker chokes. It just gives you another reason to find another gun with different chokes. And Austin mirrors my findings with shooting tight chokes. I've shot some of my best scores with M/F or F/F and I believe it is due to the feedback I get from the target breaks. A more open choke will break a target but a tight choke crushes them. I know exactly where my pattern is and the balls of dust that are left in the air when you center the target is a great confidence builder.

21's frame reminds of a fox fox reminds me of Parker so why not buy a Parker.

Bill, with money like that maybe you buy me a new Parker no?

I shoot a lifter 12 it's bore ahead of choke is .775 right choke is .720 left .723 I think that equals tight and I shoot it quite well for a average shooter. Can't say I miss a lot of birds because of chokes. With that said I would rather have right barrel Mod. or IC
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