Sleeve my O Frame Hammer 16
My 16 G Hammer gun is a favorite shot it often with either RST 2 1/2 or reloaded low pressure. Recently had the barrels inspected carefully. Now think it’s not safe to shoot . Some pits that are worse than I thought.
Like to have it sleeved, probably have to go 20G. Will end up way too much in the gun but like it and willing to pay. Any barrel shop recommendations ? Willam |
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Your options are limited for actual sleeving. Merrington maybe and Aaron Little. Getting tubes is more of an issue these days.
Briley tubes would really be your best option. It will be cheaper and the outside of the barrels will still be original in appearance. And you would be 20g either way. I understand your concern, but if you have been shooting the gun all along and have had no issue, why not just continue to do so? |
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I completely agree. . |
Couple of things, have used Kurt before simple jobs & have been pleased, owned a Briley tubed gun too worked fine.
On the condition, one respected opinion the barrels are fine another recent opinion they aren’t. 3rd opinion may be either way. My grandson is doing well shooting clays with modern guns has taken to SxS lately. Mostly my GH 12 some with one of my Trojan 20s he wants to try a hammer gun. Different equation when the gun is going to be used by someone else. Briley likely the best choice less expense no permanent alterations totaly safe. Thanks guys your comments worth consideration William |
I am getting Briley short tubes as we speak. Brian makes good points
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I dont think you can go from 16 to 20 with Briley tubes, you have to go to 28 ga--thats what they told me a year or so ago. Hope I'm wrong--I'd prefer 20 myself.
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Harold is right. I am going from 16 to 28 and they told me 20 was not an option with 16. I prefer 28 anyway.
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I was wondering that myself. That is good to know.
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Just as a question but.... What ever happened to Teauge (sp) in England reaming old Damascus barrels an inserting a full length steel liner of the same gauge.... I have seen one such gun and you had to look hard to see the liner....
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They will need to be 28 G which suits me fine
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I have a hammer 16 grade 2 that is Briley tubed to 28. It also has Briley screw in chokes in the 28 tubes. It is a great shooting gun. I will have my Lindner 16 hammer gun Briley tubed to 28 in the near future.
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There is an article in Diggory Haddock’s online gun journal about Teague tubes posted a few issues ago. As per above, there were adhesion, separation, and corrosion issues if I remember correctly.
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I would check with Briley to make sure they do not alter the existing bores.
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Although a moot point now, I have a C grade lifter that I sent to England and had the barrels Teague lined. Never had any issues.
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The DH article is in the June 2017 issue of his online journal. He mentioned someone in the US licensed, at that time, by Teague. I wonder who that was.
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Mills, Briley will do to your bores what you ask them to do. They don't do anything to my bores. Kolar, conversely, insists on lengthening the forcing cones. Kolar tubes are not for vintage guns.
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They told me they would lengthen chambers and do some honing. I went along, but these barrels will never shoot again safely without sleeving or tubes
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Mills, why go to the expense of chamber work and honing? The tubes will be what you are shooting out of.
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I guess to make the tubes fit better
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Talked to Briley this morning. To fit my 16 G hammer gun, they machine the tubes to fit the bore. Chambers have to be 2 & 3/4 inch, tubes index depth on the front of the chamber. Fitting 190 dollars over the cost of Tubes. This is not needed on a number of modern factory guns, others it is needed. Short or full length tubes same work required.
May get a 3rd opinion on my barrels . If posable watch the method used and examine through the bore scope myself. William |
Do what I would do and tell Briley to k/m/a and install the tubes in my barrels. $190 to bore out my chambers is ridiculous.
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No way would I have anyone bore out my chambers. I’d keep the original barrels and find and fit another set that I have more faith in.
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And mine may be depending on which expert I listen to. Nice condition O Frame set of Hammer gun barrels rare bird.
William |
I took mine to the Southern and got opinions from several of the best experts. They all pronounced the patient dead though. That would be a good option for you. In your case, you have shot it without problems and may be you just need to keep to the lowest pressure.
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