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Drew Hause 07-28-2021 11:34 AM

Damascus Sample Segments in "The Parker Story"
 
As Brian pointed out, The Parker Story, Volume 2, Chapter XII “Barrels, Bores, Chambers, and Frames”, p. 498 has images of several pattern welded sample segments which were the property of James Hayes (who succeeded Charles A. King a Chief of Design at Parker Bros.).

Sample segments are attached to a tag “Pagnoul & Jeusette Liege” and “No.”, and each is stamped “P&J” over “Liege” and with a number which no doubt correlates to a code listing the pattern name.

I can’t ID the left segment; the middle is Etoile or “American Flag”; and right is a Chine. They appear to have been refinished, reportedly by Dr Gaddy.

https://photos.smugmug.com/Damascus/...%26J%201-L.png


Pagnoul & Jeusette et Cie is not listed on the LittleGun site
http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20belge...ifies%20gb.htm

Nor were they members of the Syndicat des Fabricants de Canons de Fusil de la Vesdre in 1907

I did find a Société Pagnoul et Cie in Liege in 1898
https://books.google.com/books?id=b3...J&pg=PA644&lpg
which appears to have been liquidated in 1908
https://www.google.com/books/edition...sec=frontcover

Could someone translate the texts to identify what Société Pagnoul et Cie produced?

I have not found Pagnoul & Jeusette et Cie on any list of importers.


I have never seen several of the patterns:

Herringbone or Remington Ohonon 6 S.T. top
Unknown Herringbone pattern bottom

https://photos.smugmug.com/Damascus/...%26J%202-S.png


Unknown pattern but similar to Remington Legia P. top
Unknown Chine’ pattern bottom similar to Remington Chine P. (‘P’ thought to be Pieper)

https://photos.smugmug.com/Damascus/...%26J%203-M.png

Without additional information, it is impossible to determine if Pagnoul & Jeusette supplied the pattern welded “rough forged tubes” to Parker Bros., or if these sample segments were part of a salesman’s sample box in the possession of James Hayes. Most of the patterns were never used by Parker Bros.

Without the number codes, several of the patterns can not be named. Does anyone know the fate of the segments, and possibly the sample box?


IMHO a poster with professional images, with the pattern names, would sell very well and could be marketed and sold for the benefit of PGCA.

Dean Romig 07-28-2021 02:46 PM

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Here's one I had originally believed was Parker made Laminated because the serial number is within that range when Parker was making them. But it is not Parker made.

This is a C Lifter formerly owned by Robin Lewis but went to a new owner many years ago.
The pattern is nearly identical to Drew's picture of Herringbone or Remington Ohonon 6 S.T.


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Drew Hause 07-28-2021 04:25 PM

Here's another; the "gold towel guy's" I think $200 grade Lifter

https://photos.smugmug.com/Damascus/...ringbone-M.jpg

Marked Laminated Steel

https://photos.smugmug.com/Damascus/...Ctoncin2-M.jpg

Side by side with a barrel that IS Laminated Steel

https://photos.smugmug.com/Damascus/...inated02-M.jpg

Dean Romig 07-29-2021 07:09 AM

Same gun Drew. I asked the gold towel guy if there was a P stamped on the right barrel flat where the stamp for the type of steel is usually found… he said there is no P.





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