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Always wanted a .410 double. Like hammer guns. Entry level, needs work, but has great bores and nice wood. Marked American Gun Company New York. I presume it's a Crescent.
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Nice!!
For some reason, the H & D Folsom Arms Co. used the name "American Gun Co." on the guns they made at their Crescent Fire Arms Co. factory in Norwich, Conn. that they marketed, and that they sold to others that weren't ordered with a "trade brand" from the late 1890s until after WW-I. We do find a few higher grade guns from this period that are marked "Folsom Arms Co. New York" -- Attachment 88296 Early on these little hammer doubles were offered in 28-gauge and .44XL. Attachment 88293 Along about 1915 they began chambering the No. 44 to take the newly introduced in North America 2 1/2 inch .410-bore shell. Attachment 88294 By about 1920 they began using the Crescent Fire Arms Co. name again. Attachment 88295 |
Thank you for the great information. Was wondering about the 44XL. Chambers measure 2 1/4 inches. Zero choke. In fact my gauge will rattle a little at the muzzles. You have to push the top lever over to get it to lock up. Has side to side play. Roll pin looks OK but barrel hook has seen better days. Need to finish my Anschutz before I fool with it.
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My book on .410-bore shotshells say Remington Arms - Union Metallic Cartridge Co. introduced them in 1914. No .410-bore shells were shown in the 1913-14 Remington Arms - Union Metallic Cartridge Co. catalog, they first appear in the 1915-16 Remington Arms - Union Metallic Cartridge Co. catalog --
Attachment 88298 Attachment 88299 Those remained the offerings through the 1923 Remington Arms Co. Inc. catalog -- Attachment 88301 Attachment 88300 These loads were 3/10 ounce in the 2-inch shell and 3/8 ounce in the 2 1/2 inch shell. The .410-bore shell first appears in the 1916 Winchester catalog offered only in 2-inch. By the mid-1920s progressive burning smokeless powder was applied to the 2 1/2 inch .410-bore shell -- Attachment 88302 Shortly after the 3-inch .410-bore shell was introduced in 1933, our manufacturers upped the payload in the 2 1/2 inch shell to the 1/2 ounce we know today. Attachment 88303 |
Bruce: It is likely that American Gun Co. New York guns were marketed by Sears.
A very rough estimate of DOM per Joseph Vorisek Model 44 44/40 & .44XL c. 1910 to 1915, Model 44 "Midget Field" .410 - 1915 to 1927, Model 44 Improved .410 bore - 1927 to 1932. Estimated production 36,000 or about 1,600 yearly. 1910 – 001 to 1,600 1911 – 1,601 to 3,200 1912 – 3,201 to 4,800 1913 – 4,801 to 6,400 1914 – 6,401 to 8,000 1915 – 8,001 to 9,600 1916 – 9,601 to 11,200 1917 – 11,201 to 12,800 1918 – 12,801 to 14,400 1919 – 14,401 to 16,000 1920 – 16,001 to 17,600 1921 – 17,601 to 19,200 1922 – 19,201 to 20,800 1923 – 20,801 to 22,400 1924 – 22,401 to 24,000 1925 – 24,001 to 25,600 1926 – 25,601 to 27,200 1927 – 27,201 to 28,800 1928 – 28,801 to 30,400 1929 – 30,401 to 32,000 1930 – 32,001 to 33,600 1931 – 33,601 to 35,200 1932 – 35,200 to 36,000 More Folsom, Crescent, American Gun Co. information here https://docs.google.com/document/pub...iu5JGIhfguSXXQ |
Looks like I have a 1911 unit. Thanks all for the info. Looks like I have a double rifle of sorts.
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