The 450/400 is a Ruger #1. I'm using 30gr of Trail Boss and a 210gr Sierra 41 cal pistol bullet.

The 500 BPE is a Heym double and I believe the load is 36gr of Trail Boss and a 365gr cast bullet but I'd have to look it up to be sure. It's very accurate in this rifle and I wouldn't hesitate to shoot a deer at 100 yards with it.

I think I will try that load in my Manton. It kicks the cr@& out of you with full house loads.

I like the reduced loads in the 450-400, 375 H&H & 416 Taylor. It makes them much more user friendly. You don't need to move a 400gr bullet at 2400 FPS to kill a deer. These reduced loads can and do make deer rifles out of Elephant guns:)

I have noticed that there is a sever shortage of elephants in this country and cape buff. Might as well load it to shoot targets or deer. I loader my 416 down with 400gr cast bullets. Dosn't sound like much but sure makes a difference going down on the velocity to cast bullet velocity.

I use 4198 as Sherman Bell recommended - 40% of 4198 of a BP load. That would be 24 grs of 4198 in my 40/60. Being a little cautious seeing how I was using a rifle barrel liner in my 10ga Remington and it was what I thought a bit thin, I started at 20.5grs and settled on 21.5grs. I also used some cotton balls for filler. The 40% formula seems to work just fine. Mild recoil and good groups.

Well the brass dies and bullet mold arrived today but Dam it no gun yet. I am going to stay away from the wads and fillers if possible. 36grs of 5744 sounds good or may be some trail boss. I ran down to the building and cast a few bullets. they came in at 336grs. slightly heavy but close enough. Lion medicine if your are brave enough.

Ive read good thing about 5744 but haven't tried it. I have data for it with both the 450/400 and 416 Taylor. it's comforting to know I have Lion medicine you know just in case the neighbors cat goes on steroids:rotf:

Last time I saw you it was more like MEOW-MEOW medicine. Have you upgraded ?

I have several killers of big creatures, a 416 Taylor, 450/400 Ruger #1 BUT the best is a Heym hammer gun with a Jones under lever in 500 BPE:). Maybe you might want to think of a stopping rifle competition at the shoot in May:whistle:

I am glad I own a couple of stopping rifles. These armadillos are dangerous.