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Jim Kremmel 03-20-2022 01:09 PM

Victorian Shotguns and Dogs Photo Quiz
 
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Well, my bracket is in tatters and is raining today. So, I thought I’d start a quiz based on a vintage photograph I paid too much for but fell in love with. Looking to come up with a consensus on the makes of the guns, and breeds of the dogs. So, going left to right please give me your guesses/thoughts on each hunter’s shotgun and dog. Bonus question is the year you think it was taken. My untrained eyes think they see two Parker’s. Note, I have not taken this out of the frame, but I will after I compile everyone’s guesses. Hoping for some info on the back of the picture. Time starts now...

Dean Romig 03-20-2022 02:16 PM

I think No.'s 2 and 4 are Parkers and the dogs are - No.'s 1 and 2 are English setters 3 is a Brittany spaniel and 4 looks like an Irish/English setter cross-breed.


Edit: - No. 3 can't be a Brit. Not in this country til 1920's.





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Dave Noreen 03-20-2022 03:17 PM

The Formula 1 season started this weekend. Life is good. The Scuderia is back!!

Gun No. 3 is one of the top-lever Remington Hammer Doubles 1882 to 89 can't tell which. Gun No. 1 appears to be some kind of side-lever. Whether a quality English gun or JABC I can't tell.

charlie cleveland 03-20-2022 04:59 PM

I belive the time frame to be about 1885...charlie

Garry L Gordon 03-20-2022 05:05 PM

Brits were introduced in the US in the late 1920s.

Jim Kremmel 03-20-2022 05:22 PM

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Jim Kremmel 03-20-2022 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Noreen (Post 359059)
Gun No. 3 is one of the top-lever Remington Hammer Doubles 1882 to 89 can't tell which. Gun No. 1 appears to be some kind of side-lever. Whether a quality English gun or JABC I can't tell.

Close ups posted Researcher...

Harold Lee Pickens 03-20-2022 06:45 PM

3 Eng. Setters-not sure of the dog on the right.
Gun 2 is a lifter action and gun 4 appears to have a hinge pin.
All have long barrels and may be 10 ga's

Arthur Shaffer 03-20-2022 08:22 PM

No question No. 2 is a Lifter and is a later model with the 1 piece lifter I believe. The two types had a different shape and thickness. I also would bet it is a 10 gauge from the looks. No.4 I would put my best guess as being a top lever hammer gun. Time based on that could be set with a definite earliest possible date at the transition from 3 piece to 1 piece lifters.

I believe the first gun is a side lever of some sort as already guessed. The enlarged pictures helped.

Somebody should be able to take a guess as to grade from the checkering in the enlargement of No.4.

Donald F. Mills 03-21-2022 05:32 AM

I am not sure gun number 2 is a lifter, when I blow it up larger and look at the colors and contours, I believe what we are seeing could be the bottom corner of his coat and not a lifter mechanism. Looking at the frame sculpting I think gun 2 and 3 are the same manufacturer though.

Anyone think guy number 3 is attired a little different for this group between the hat and the hip boots?


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