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Bill Mullins 03-19-2019 04:51 PM

Parker Reproduction 12 NSFL
 
A friend of mine that owns a small gun shop has an opportunity to purchase a PR 12 NSFL. Marked National Sporting Foundation Limited. Edition of 100. Pistol grip, single trigger and beavertail. It is has a Pachmayer pad. Anything special value wise on these guns? Thanks! 😊

Bob Jurewicz 03-19-2019 05:25 PM

Very suspicious about the pad
Bob Jurewicz

Bill Mullins 03-19-2019 05:30 PM

Thanks Bob! I agree. Gun has approximately 90% CC and 98% Blue. A few nicks in the wood. Case with snap caps and outer cover. 😊

Rich Anderson 03-19-2019 05:38 PM

The pad was added afterwards. The NSFL was started by Jim Rikhoff formerly of Winchester Press in the early 70's. They produced limited edition hunting and fishing book that emulated Derrydale press. The membership was limited to 1000 and they did special things for the membership. There were several runs of limited Parker reproductions such as the one your friend is considering and there was a 20/16 as well.

I would think that any added value the NSFL might add would be detracted by the addition of the pad. There was nothing extra special about the guns just that a run was done solely for the NSFL .

Bill Mullins 03-19-2019 07:54 PM

Thanks Rich for the history of the NSFL and your thoughts on the value of the gun in comparison to a normal PR 12. I will pass it on to him. 😊

Richard Flanders 03-21-2019 07:54 AM

My 2-bbl set 28ga Repro is #1 of the NSFL series in 28ga. My experience has been that vey few people have ever heard of the NSFL.

Eric Eis 03-21-2019 08:05 AM

Bill value the gun as a PR 12 gauge, no value added to NSFL as it was the same gun no changes or upgrades and yes a minus for the recoil pad.

Greg Baehman 03-21-2019 09:15 AM

Value, like beauty, is in the eyes of the beholder. To a member of the NSFL, it may have added value; to someone that's not a member of the NSFL it may not have any added value or perhaps even be a detriment to value. IMO, the added pad, whether a member or not, hurts the value by ~$500 compared to a standard issue DHE.

Chris Travinski 03-25-2019 07:55 PM

Personally I don't like all of the NSFL junk on the barrels, it takes away from the value to me.

David C Porter 06-15-2023 08:58 AM

I find the opinions on the recoil pad interesting. I've seen several with pads an have assumed they were added later, but giving more thought to it since I have owned 5 that were in their original boxes that have the end sticker with info. check boxs to mark. there is a box for skeleton buttplate & another box for rubber. So, it appears you could get a P. R. With a recoil pad. If anyone has a P. R. with a factory recoil pad it would be nice to know what type/manufacture pad they used

Greg Baehman 06-15-2023 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by David C Porter (Post 390337)
I find the opinions on the recoil pad interesting. I've seen several with pads an have assumed they were added later, but giving more thought to it since I have owned 5 that were in their original boxes that have the end sticker with info. check boxs to mark. there is a box for skeleton buttplate & another box for rubber. So, it appears you could get a P. R. With a recoil pad. If anyone has a P. R. with a factory recoil pad it would be nice to know what type/manufacture pad they used

We've discussed the rubber butt in the past. In the linked thread below from 2009 Richard Skeuse posted that a rubber butt was never factory installed, but rather added aftermarket. Subsequently, I believe it has been stated that the rubber butt on the Repro boxes was actually meant to be a hard rubber butt plate -- but that was never implemented. In addition, in a Parker Reproductions Newsletter, a factory installed leather covered recoil pad was considered for the Sporting Clays Classic model and also to be made available aftermarket for Repro owners and their guns previously purchased with skeleton butts. But, those too; were never implemented.

Link to previous discussion: https://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=243

The Newsletter considering the leather covered recoil pad:

David C Porter 06-18-2023 09:48 AM

Does anyone know how many sets were actually made in each gauge? Here's what I've seen so far by highest serial number: 12 gauge, 12-30. 20 gauge, 20-62. 28 gauge, 28-37.

Greg Baehman 06-18-2023 10:08 AM

Supposedly, there were 100 to be produced in each gauge, but how many were actually built and sold is likely only known by a very few.

EDIT: Doing a little more snooping around, a letter from Jim Rikhoff of The NSFL confirms that there were indeed 100 20ga. NSFL guns produced and sold and that 100 would also be produced in 12 and 28ga. of this special edition . Scroll down to the four page letter in this thread: https://parkerguns.org/forums/showth...ht=NSFL&page=5

Kenny Graft 06-19-2023 07:24 AM

Barrel length is a factor....28" brings more $ than 26" Also wood that is above the norm is a plus as well as two triggers. Pad is a deal breaker for me, -500 is spot on. Buying it for a working gun in the field or traps, it could be a good deal price wise and make for a great gun to use. SXS Ohio

John Allen 06-19-2023 11:24 AM

The pad really hurts the value. In average condition with the pad, the gun should sell for $2700 to a max $3000. I saw a similar 12 gauge at a show recently that sold for $2300, but it had been shortened to 131/2"LOP. The pad will automatically lower the value by at least $500.


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