Anyone have a repro oil bottle?
Saw a repro oil bottle at the Baltimore show today and I didn't know they existed. I would really like to have one and am willing to pay good money.
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They came in the case.
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I wonder why so many cased Repros in 'as new' condition are missing the original snap caps and oil bottles...?
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I bought my Parker Reproduction with case and cover and the only thing in the case was the key. I saw the compartments but I assumed if I wanted one I had to buy the bottle later.
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Many, if not most, of those oil bottles encountered having "Parker Reproduction" on them are not original. But, instead were produced and sold by Cape Outfitters in Cape Girardeau, MO. Several years ago I had a conversation with Jeff from Jeff's Outfitters and Jeff told me of the time he was working for Don Shrum, the owner Cape Outfitters when Don put together a 3 item "Parker Reproduction Accessory Set" that included a pair of snap caps, an oil bottle and a cleaning rod. They sold them like hot cakes for $109.95/set. Shrum had the components engraved by a local trophy or jewelry shop. I don't know why someone couldn't do the same thing today.
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How can one tell if they have an original or one borne from the Cape Outfitters effort?
John, the only one I've ever seen in the last couple of yrs was offered on ebay for silly money. It's gone so I presume someone bought it. |
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Didn't the high grade guns come with an oil bottle as part of the package?
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Good question, mine was just a D grade. Maybe someone with all the catalogs could check to see if they were available as an option or came with the higher grade guns.
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I've always assumed that the Parker Reproduction marked oil bottles that accompanied the A-1 Special or B-Grade guns were original, but I'm not positive. I just assumed, like the original snap caps, that they were sourced from Parker Hale in England.
Eric, having bought your D-Grade Repro new, I'm surprised to hear that the snap caps weren't included. I had thought that all the new guns included them. When I purchased my 1st Repro back in 1995 during the closeout, there was a note with the gun and case saying that new buyers would be receiving the snap caps at a later date. Mine came a few weeks later and every subsequent Repro DHE that I've purchased have come with the snap caps - but no oil bottle or cleaning rod. |
The oil bottle that was for sale for a ridiculous price on eBay a while back, was marketed as an "A1 Special" oil bottle.. I've been trying to gather everything that would of came with my reproduction, I didn't know that the oil bottles weren't included from the factory.
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Yes Kirk, that was the one. If I don't see an oil bottle while lusting over high grade offerings, I consider the set incomplete; perhaps that's flawed logic?
The first photo I posted of a PR flyer shows what appears to be the same bottle that resides in my safe. I can't say for sure because the knurl upon the cap isn't visible. (script looks the same from here) The knurl on mine is single-lined and angled in a manner that could be achieved by removing one of the knurls in a standard diamond knurling set. Or, one made specifically for the pattern using a simple bump knurling technique. One thing's for sure, the knurl's not cut. Here's another PR flyer that shows an unmarked oil bottle. I'd be surprised if Reagent would use an aftermarket oil bottle bearing their name in one of their flyers, as shown in the first pic, but, who knows? |
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Lookie here! :
https://m.ebay.com/itm/Original-Rare...6554558?_ul=SV |
Of the four repros I have only one had an oil bottle but all had snap caps. All were used when purchased. The oil bottle I do have is marked Parker Bros. on the cap and made in England on the bottom. It has no knurling on the cap. It is quite heavy for its size.
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I just saw a set of snap caps in 28ga today that only said parker and not parker reproduction. |
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My oil bottle is identical to the one pictured in Gregs post. Aside the script atop the cap, there are no other markings anywhere. (e.g., made in..) I wouldn't define it as particularly heavy for what it is.
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Honestly Greg mine may have come with snap caps, it was a long time ago, but I do know positively that it didn't come with an oil bottle or cleaning rod.
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I have noted some variation in snap caps logo. Some not as pronounced and lighter stampings, some have different type script as I remember. I will look at my collection when I return home. Oil bottles have good heavy stampings on the two or three I own. They are very scarce items and the ones I own came with guns. I would say original Emembi supplied, Italy mnf. We need to see examples of the knock offs. I think my A1 special has all the accessories in its maker case...will look at that too. I think a correct new mnf. oiler and rod set would do well! SXS Ohio
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Another data point - my 28 gauge DHE, purchased new from Abercrombie & Fitch in Buckhead, GA, came with snap caps but no oil bottle or cleaning rod. It was a Christmas present from my wife.
Later, Johnny |
Johnny, you're spoiled! :bowdown:
Welcome to the forum! Please tell us more about your little Repro by posting some pics in the "Let's see some wood" thread. |
Both my repros have the full kit and after reading all the above details I must check both and see how different or similar they are. :)
Back with update: The 20 gauge oil bottle(Parker Reproduction with knurled lid) and snap caps(Parker Reproduction 20 GA). The 12 gauge oil bottle (Parker Reproduction with knurled lid) and snap caps (Parker Reproduction 12 GA). The Cherry Wood cleaning rods have no markings on them. The inside case labels are identical (Parker Reproduction with Winchester at the bottom). PS - I bought a NIB 20 gauge with single trigger for my wife and she loved it but the stock was too long and she would not let me have it modified, so I eventually sold it. It also had full kit. |
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Does anyone have a bottle marked just "Parker" or "Parker Bros" that they'd be willing to trade for one marked "parker reproduction"?
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Took a quick shot of one of my sets that I've collected over the years. I have oil bottles and rods for all my personal guns.
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I have been trying to get some photos of the oil bottle I posted about earlier in this thread. My camera/abilities were just not up to the task so I finally got someone else to make it happen.
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This is interesting. I bought my 28 2bbl. set from Cape way back when. When it arrived there were no snap caps, oil bottle or cleaning rod. In fact there was no case. There was a note that said the case would show up later, which it did, minus the accessories. So were did all the accessories go? Were they removed and resold by Cape Outfitter's?
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If you bought your Repro new during the closeout, you should have received the snap caps. The oil bottle and the cleaning rod were never (to my knowledge) included with the initial sale.
When I purchased a Repro from Cape Outfitters during the closeout, only the gun, original boxes and a note were initially sent. The note explained that the case and snap caps would be sent later -- which they were. |
That is when I got it. The caps never made it. They would be fun to add if they could be found for a reasonable price.
C.G.B. |
It'll be a long search before you'll find a new set of 28-ga. Parker Reproduction snap caps for less than what Jeff's Outfitters charges for them. Get 'em while you can.
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What would a Parker repo in 20 gauge with Q! And Q2 UN fired condition with exhibition wood go for.
PS I need an oil bottle anyone have one? Thanks Anthony |
Anthony,
Here is one to guage by: https://www.gunsinternational.com/gu...n_id=101594060 Bob Jurewicz |
THANK YOU
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My Parker repros came in leather cases with all accessories, including the oil bottles.
But I have no spare bottles. |
Anthony,
You could get one of these from Jeff's and no one would know the difference. Few bottles have Parker Repro marked. https://www.jeffsoutfitters.com/prod...el-oil-bottle/ Bob Jurewicz |
Thanks
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I just picked up a 20 ga repro NIB, no oil can, cleaning rods nor snap caps. But I love the gun and it comes up to my shoulder like no other.
Now, I think I should pick up another one but in 12 ga for sporting clays. Repros in my gun cabinet/safe will make my original Parkers cry! Jeff's Outfitters has the kit and just bought a set for the 20. |
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