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jay frank dodd 08-08-2015 07:14 PM

trojan 16 will not open after firing right barrel
 
Does anyone know what may cause my gun not too open? I had fired 12 rounds of trap fioochi 16 gauge no 8s.then the gun just will not open any suggestions. Thanks jay dodd .

David Noble 08-08-2015 08:06 PM

A bit more info would be helpful. Does your top lever move fully? Does the action open at all or is it stuck solid?
If the top lever moves fully to the right then you can try holding it in the opening position and try bumping the the action against the top of your leg. Don't over do it here, you could break something. You could also try this with the forearm removed.
I'm sure others here will have some input also.
Good luck.

jay frank dodd 08-08-2015 08:38 PM

Thanks for quick response .yes lever moves too right. Safety resets.a little movement but tiny amount in barrels. And will not open no matter what I do for end off or on sprayed action with break free and down the barrel. Poked inside of empty she'll with a cleaning rod and nothing works.

Chuck Bishop 08-08-2015 09:06 PM

I had a Parker where the safety reset rod was not original and it was a bit to long. It would not allow the bolt to fully clear the bite. Putting more pressure on the lever when to the right would allow the gun to open. Since the safety resets, it sounds like the bolt is retracting but maybe not fully. Do these Fiochi's have a steel rim? If so, try opening the gun while someone else uses a ramrod down the barrel, pushing hard against the empty shell. If you do get it open, try dry firing. If it works empty, it is p problem with the shells.

jay frank dodd 08-08-2015 09:23 PM

Ok will give it a try thanks for responding.

Mike Koneski 08-09-2015 01:24 PM

We have had issues over the years with various O/U guns locking up. The problem was the firing pins would hang up in the primer and not allow for the action to open. Happened a lot with the cheap Winchester Universal shells. I'd say any shell with a soft primer or an over long FP could do it. Same symptoms as your gun, top lever fully right and just a very small amount of movement when trying to open the action. I shoot a lot of Fiocchis and never had a problem, so, I'd say check your firing pins and even just shoot a few boxes of another brand of shell. Maybe your Fiocchis have a different primer for some reason?

jay frank dodd 08-09-2015 01:33 PM

Hey thanks mike.i think you are exactly right .but my problem is I still can't get the gun to open and remove the empty she'll I've tried everything.there must be someway to get the firing pin pushed back but I have tried all suggestions.

allan.mclane 08-09-2015 01:46 PM

Just a wild assed guess here but how about pouring some clean 30wt oil down the barrel and then follow with a tight patch and jag. Whack the end of the rod with a hammer and develop some hydraulic pressure. It might just work.

Robin Lewis 08-09-2015 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allan.mclane (Post 174472)
Just a wild assed guess here but how about pouring some clean 30wt oil down the barrel and then follow with a tight patch and jag. Whack the end of the rod with a hammer and develop some hydraulic pressure. It might just work.

I would worry about soaking the wood with all that oil?

calvin humburg 08-09-2015 04:11 PM

Can u get it open a little and use a feeler gauge or such get it between pin and shell head


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