Has anyone used the ch 8 ga swagging dies ?
Ive been talking to Dave the owner of CH dies about his two set swagging dies for 8 ga industrial cases . He says he was experimented alot with them and gave me a detailed description how they work . Im waiting to hear back on if they work on the one piece case heads or just the two piece one which are the remington hulls if i recall .
I think using imperial sizing wax this would take alot of pain out of re sizing 8 ga hulls which i know some of yall do by hand or on a lathe . This is how he said it works First die has a radius to squeeze the 'BELT" Which is actually another band of brass, rather than peeling it. Second die takes that diameter clear to the rim. I experimented extensively with this & could not make it work with only one die. |
i was given some measurements for a dye to swage the 8 ga hull a fellow made me a dye by the measurements it works in one step on all 8 ga hulls... some fellow builds a loader out of a 10 ga 600 junior into the 8 ga....maybe someone will jump in here...charlie
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Dave said he said he wasnt sure if it works on the single piece industrial cases. What case lube do you use when sizing ? Im months away from picking up a 8 ga cartridge gun but I just want to get my ducks in a row so to speak . |
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I made a two sided ring die that sizes down the base reinforcement on the base of the industrial cases in two steps. I lube them and use a arbor press to push them in and then put a wood dowel in the case and push it back out with the press.
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Though I found a picture of someone resizing the Winchester 8 ga hulls but didnt say what they were using to do it or method . It was a big red press and they were star crimping them. Not sure now if im am going to try and get a 8 gauge or not . I have the 8 gauge muzzleloader on the way . Guess it will depend on several factors and what I can find come around November . |
milt on my 8 ga die i dont even have to use any oil works fine on any 8 ga hull made i have seen so far...press down for sizeing and then i turn it over and use a 3/8 size extension from my craftsman tools and press it out....perfect every time....when i first loaded 8 ga hulls i used a set of coduit wire pliers to shape the hull they did not look very pretty but it worked real good...just a idea for you.....charlie
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Charlie here are the 8 ga loads I got from you years ago I think back when you was using the pliers . I always wondered the two bulges on the bottom of the rim is that a process from reloading the 8 ga hulls or did they come like that ?
The 10 gauge next to them is a 3oz load from nitro ammo |
Those two bulges are from the factory. Your are over thinking this to much. The measurements I gave Charlie work fine and any machinist can make the die for a very nominal fee. Do a search of this forum and you will find a print for the die.
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Milton, take next month's paycheck and buy 30 RMC eight gauge empties before they go out of business. There won't be any more. I have never loaded mine, but they are in reserve when my paper Winchesters wear out.
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