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Drew Hause

07-13-2018 05:30 PM

Garry: please show us some more barrel. The rosettes seem much less prominent and that may be Bernard I.

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL.../364019234.jpg

Garry L Gordon

07-13-2018 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Drew Hause (Post 248242)

Garry: please show us some more barrel. The rosettes seem much less prominent and that may be Bernard I.

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL.../364019234.jpg

This is the best I have handy. The gun is from 1896.

Drew Hause

07-13-2018 06:58 PM

Thank Garry.

Does anyone have a Bernard C with other than a 'B' on the barrel flats?

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL.../352676091.jpg

Do the original order books specify Bernard, Bern 1, Bern 2??

Wayne Owens

07-13-2018 07:28 PM

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Here are some Bernard barrels from 1892.

Michael Moffa

07-13-2018 09:01 PM

Ah the C grade, quite the enigma. My C collection has Damascus, Bernard, Titanic and Acme barrels. It may be the only grade where 4 types of barrels were used.

Sara LeFever

07-13-2018 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean Romig (Post 248172)

And here is a set of orphaned and abused Lefever barrels I recently bought.

Dean,
Can you share any details on those barrels (grade? gauge?). Piqued my interest.
Thanks,
Sara

Dean Romig

07-13-2018 10:52 PM

I also have a Bernard barreled Grade-4 T/A hammer gun and the letter says Damascus too.

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Dean Romig

07-13-2018 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruce Day (Post 248213)

For those who attend the Pheasant Fest in Schaumburg Ill next Feb, I will bring several Bernard barreled guns, including a smallbore. There are a handful of B grades with Bernard but mostly C’s. We have a Parker letter indicating Bernard barrels were more resistant to wear than the four blade Damascus otherwise offered for C grades.

Bruce, would that be a 26" 16 gauge with ivory beads?

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Dean Romig

07-13-2018 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sara LeFever (Post 248254)

Dean,
Can you share any details on those barrels (grade? gauge?). Piqued my interest.
Thanks,
Sara

Yes Sara,

Somebody apparently turned a beautiful A grade, side-cocker with Bernard barrels into a "cowboy action gun" by cutting the barrels down to 22".

The ignorance out there is apalling!!

Anyway, someone bought the gun and fitted fluid steel barrels to it and put these barrels up for sale on doublegunshop.com and I bought them... Why? you might ask.... I have a soft spot for any kind of orphan I guess.

Double or triple click on the pictures I posted where you can see the top rib engraved "Made Expressly For F. A. Elliott" I asked Bob Elliott if this F A Elliott was some relative of his and he said "Not to my knowledge."

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Dean Romig

07-13-2018 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Moffa (Post 248253)

Ah the C grade, quite the enigma. My C collection has Damascus, Bernard, Titanic and Acme barrels. It may be the only grade where 4 types of barrels were used.

Actually 5 that I know of. A few early C Lifter hammer guns were made with Laminated barrels.

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