10ga #4 frame?
 

where can I find out how many 10ga #4 frame 34" bbls hammer guns Parker made? It seems quite rare in looking at some of the sales.

There really is no way to know. Frame sizes were only rarely mentioned in the records

4 and 5 frame guns have been scares for me to find...I have yet to hold one in my hands....charlie

Many #4 frame hammer guns of higher grades were made for shooters who shot for Parker Brothers in competitive events. Anyone who finds themselves in possession of such guns should request a PGCA letter to find if there is a famous name associated with the gun.

I have a C 10 4 frame, but alas, the order book is missing, so no info on the original owner

As mills said, there is absolutely no way of knowing how many guns in a given frame size were made.

I have a B 10 4 frame without the dolls head extension. It was purchased by George Dugan, an operations superintendent for the Santa Fe Railroad in 1882. It has 30" barrels with reversed F/M chokes. It is the only 4 frame I have seen in person.

we would like to see a picture of that B grade.

Pictures of the 4 frame. The stock has skeletal buttplate. My son has my camera and I don't have stock pictures.

Very nice. Looks to be of the same vintage as my C

What a nice gun!

Very nice !

I've got a 0 grade 4 frame 34" that has issues and a Grade 3 4 frame but 32" . Doubt if I ever get one in a higher grade :rotf:

But I do NEED a 5 frame 10 !!!!

hope you find a 5 frame.....charlie

I have a few 4 frames but have yet to find a 5 frame. I know they are out there though

What are the serial numbers and ownership provenenance of some of those #4 frames? The owners may have been Parker company shooters of some interest.

One went to E K. Tryon. One went to Carlos Gove in Colorado and the order books are missing for my C which is a bummer

Bill do you own any 4 frames owned by Parker shooters?

Yes, I own W.S. Perry's 33" Bernard Steel C Grade top lever. Parker Brothers built this gun for Perry in 1887 but a year or two later, they built him a hammerless gun which they apparently wanted him to shoot. The C Grade was not used much and survived in mint condition. I don't know where the gun was all this time, but stored with it was his 33" Greener Royal eight gauge, also having survived in mint conditon. I was able to buy them several years ago in a market that didn't appreciate such guns. The Parker was displayed in the Concours de Excellence at the Vintage Cup a few years ago.

Mills, did Carlos Gove perform any of his magic on your #4 frame?

As a "refresher" to this thread, I direct those interested to my article in DGJ Volume 13, Issue 2, Summer 2002 entitled "Parker Bros. 1879 Quality 5 Underlifter 10-Bore Hammer Gun." This gun is a number 4 frame, 32-inch, 11 pounds even "whomper", whose factory provenance and post-Meriden history is fascinating. The article also contains the best pictures I was ever able to take in my series of DGJ articles over the years.

The elderly man from whom I purchased the gun had made a 15-minute VHS video tape of the gun from every conceivable angle in his driveway with the assistance of his son. His still pictures in his ad copy were terrible quality, but the video was near broadcast quality. When I asked him why the gun had not sold in the 3 months that I had been tracking it, he said that no one would pay him the $20 plus postage he was charging for his video production costs and mailing. I sent him the $20 plus $100 to hold the gun for me until I watched it.

I watched it 3 times and sent him the money. The gun won the award for "Best Original Hammer Parker" at the Gold Medal Concours d'Elegance of Fine Guns at the Vintage Cup, Orvis Sandanona, September 22, 2001. Best $20 I ever spent!

Does not look like it

Hopefully, one of our members has run across some famous shooter ordering a 31 inch C 10 . It is a travesty the order books did not find their way to PGCA for this one