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Bruce Day 01-15-2014 11:20 AM

2014 Raffle Gun
 
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12ga D Hammer

We'll have tickets at the Pheasant Fest in Milwaukee Feb 14, 15, 16. This is not the exact gun, as it is presently out for a little fluffing up by one of the generous gunsmith friends of the PGCA but I feel confident in saying that the actual gun will look as good as this or better. It will be a nice gun to have.

Eric Eis 01-15-2014 11:24 AM

Now that's one neat gun......

Rick Losey 01-15-2014 11:34 AM

wow --

Mark Landskov 01-15-2014 11:37 AM

Very nice!

Dennis V. Nix 01-15-2014 12:37 PM

If you send it to me I could take the time to make sure it shoots well before I win it in the raffle. Just me, trying to be helpful once again. That is a beautiful gun.

Dennis

Bill Murphy 01-15-2014 12:45 PM

A ten D hammer? You have to be kidding. Linda's raffle ticket purchases are out of hand. Now I'll be joining the insanity. OK, let's have the PGCA letter on this great gun. Chuck??

Dennis V. Nix 01-15-2014 12:47 PM

I thought it said 12 ga D hammer???

Dennis

Mills Morrison 01-15-2014 01:00 PM

Look at that wood! I like the dog engraving too. Maybe this year will be the charm for me.

Greg Baehman 01-15-2014 02:25 PM

Wow, that's exactly what I've been looking for for years . . . a 12-ga. Grade 3 fishtail toplever!

charlie cleveland 01-15-2014 03:22 PM

yep this gun is gona sell a lot of tickets for sure..mighty nice...charlie

Larry Frey 01-15-2014 03:31 PM

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Here is a little information on the PGCA 2014 Raffle Gun.

Angel Cruz 01-15-2014 03:48 PM

That's got to be full chokes. Who's selling the tickets. I swear I can never remember..

Mills Morrison 01-15-2014 03:52 PM

That was my reaction Angel. Looks like XXX Full

Rich Anderson 01-15-2014 03:59 PM

I have a grade 3 hammergun but another one wouldn't hurt. I wouldn't win a free lunch is a soup kitchen if I brought my own bowl and spoon but I'll buy tickets for a hammergun.

Dean Romig 01-15-2014 04:05 PM

Ed Morgan is the Chairman of the Raffle Gun Committee.

Dean Romig 01-15-2014 04:11 PM

Now that's a waterfowl gun for sure!! Almost 9 lbs. and the original owner was in Portland Maine. There was great waterfowl hunting in that area in that time period. It is a wonderful gun - I have handled it and only wish I could win it :crying:

Rich Anderson 01-15-2014 04:13 PM

Dean you won a raffel gun once befor. Isn't it a once in a lifetime event?:rotf:

Bill Murphy 01-15-2014 04:53 PM

Dean and others, the purchaser of the gun, Mr. Davis, was a dealer, not an individual. I am still crazy about the gun. Is it a #3 frame gun? At this weight, it is not hard to imagine. If it is a pre check hook gun with no frame size marking, maybe we could measure the firing pin spacing to find the frame size. I am all atwitter, but, then, I'm usually all atwitter. I have a 1912 Flying Ducks catalog with the Davis stamp. Maybe I can trade the catalog in on some extra raffle tickets. I don't know where I got the idea it was a ten. What a gun. Bruce, please post pictures of the actual raffle gun as soon as possible.

Bruce Day 01-15-2014 04:58 PM

The timing is such that we think we will have the actual gun on display in Milwaukee and if we do, I'll post photos. The key is that it is a D hammer, with the nice bolster sculpting, and highly desirable to many if not most collectors.

Dean Romig 01-15-2014 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Anderson (Post 126684)
Dean you won a raffel gun once befor. Isn't it a once in a lifetime event?:rotf:



PGCA Officers and BOD members are ineligible.

David Noble 01-16-2014 01:06 AM

Bruce, do you know if it has the original barrel length?
I can't wait to see it once its spruced up! Aren't raffle tickets sent to the members in advance?

ED J, MORGAN 01-16-2014 07:00 AM

I will be sending each member one book of 6 tickets in August 2014. You may request more books by email. at a later date.

ED J, MORGAN 01-16-2014 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by David Noble (Post 126729)
Bruce, do you know if it has the original barrel length?
I can't wait to see it once its spruced up! Aren't raffle tickets sent to the members in advance?

Barrels are 30", steel butt, splinter fr,

Angel Cruz 01-16-2014 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ED J, MORGAN (Post 126731)
I will be sending each member one book of 6 tickets in August 2014. You may request more books by email. at a later date.

So, we can't buy tickets whenever we want them? We have to wait till after Aug. 2014?? Don't make no sense...

Larry Frey 01-16-2014 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by David Noble (Post 126729)
Bruce, do you know if it has the original barrel length?
I can't wait to see it once its spruced up! Aren't raffle tickets sent to the members in advance?

David,
The barrels are 30" and have a beautiful Damascus pattern. They are very stout as is indicated by the gun weight listed on the letter. I believe this gun to be a two frame with incredible wood and wonderful D grade engraving typical of guns from this period.

I will post some nice close-ups of the gun in a couple of weeks and it will also be on display at most of the events the PGCA will be represented at throughout the year.

Erick Dorr 01-16-2014 07:36 PM

Lovely. This gun needs to come home to Maine.
Erick

Paul Stafford 01-16-2014 10:29 PM

My luck is so bad I could buy all the books of tickets and still loose.........

Doesn't mean I won't try........


Beautiful gun...

John Davis 01-17-2014 06:20 AM

I believe the chokes have been opened a bit and the stock bent a tad to take out some of the drop. Would make a great dove or sporting clays gun.

ED J, MORGAN 01-17-2014 11:27 AM

Angel. I have printed 100 books for early shows. The picture on the ticket is a hammer gun but not quite correct, but ok for now. When the gun comes back from the gunsmith I will print more tickets with the correct pic. In the other post, by later I did not mean after Aug.

Rich Anderson 01-17-2014 01:00 PM

Angel come to the Southern and you can buy all the tickets you want there.:rotf:

Mills Morrison 01-17-2014 01:07 PM

Seriously Angel. It would be great to put a name with a face. Should be a lot of fun too.

Dean Romig 01-17-2014 01:19 PM

The real Raffle Gun is every bit as nice looking as the one shown in the representative picture.

edgarspencer 01-18-2014 04:48 AM

Dean, If I remember correctly, you and I were standing with Larry at the Southern last year when the gun was given to Larry. I remember the look on your face, and it must have matched mine, when Larry said "Here's the 2014 Raffle gun"
It truly is a beautiful gun.

Dean Romig 01-18-2014 07:34 AM

It was that plus the realization that I wouldn't have a chance to bring it home.

John Dallas 01-18-2014 08:56 AM

Can someone describe the process by which the PGCA acquires the raffle guns?

Larry Frey 01-18-2014 10:10 AM

John,
I have only been involved in the process for a relatively short time but in the past most of the guns would be purchased at the best possible price and freshened if necessary to allow for the maximum monetary benefit of the PGCA. At the 2012 Fall Southern, Life Member and past Chairman of the Board John Davis graciously donated an amazing D grade top lever hammer gun for use as this years raffle gun and we can't thank him enough. I should have more information and some nice pics in a couple of weeks. This will perhaps be the nicest gun the PGCA has ever raffled and hope everyone gets a chance to handle it at some of our upcoming events.

Bruce Day 01-18-2014 10:35 AM

I'll add to Larry's post. As he said, the raffle gun is sometimes donated. Other times, the word is passed out that we are looking for a raffle gun a year or two into the future. It has to be a gun where there is a consensus that it will be desirable to members and the public, its a nice original configuration gun ( no chopped barrels, added beavertails, etc) , and right priced so as to maximize return to the PGCA.

If the gun is bought from a director or longtime PGCA good guy, its bought at his cost; no self dealing money making deals here. Often the gun needs fluffing up, it hasn't been a full restoration, but sometimes the barrels need re-browning if Damascus, and often the stock needs dirt cleaned out and a top coat rubbed in. That work is usually generously donated or at cost by a friend of the PGCA gunsmith, Dale Edmonds, Brad Bachelder and Doug Turnbull come to mind.

Sometimes a request has been posted on the forum for submission of raffle gun candidates. It has to be a gun that others would be pleased to own and the more wow factor the better. Got one you want to donate or sell at cost?

Dean Romig 01-18-2014 12:30 PM

All of the Raffle Guns that I have seen since I joined the PGCA in about 2000 have been very desirable representations of various grades and configurations of Parker guns.
The CHE Double Trap gun I won in 2005 was a fabulous Parker and all the PGCA had done to it was the addition of a new Silvers pad and the checkering touched up. This year's Raffle Gun, while representing a different category of Parker shotguns, is every bit as desirable... even more so to many members.


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