Re bore chokes on Reproduction ?
Hi, tried searching and have heard differing opinions.
Can you open up the chokes on reproduction barrels ? Trying to open up a few full barrels to IC/M for upland bird. If possible, suggestions for who to use ? Thanks Jeff |
Why not? Sure.
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Brian, I have seen some evidence of barrel work on chrome plated Beretta barrels resulting in rusting of the worked on areas. Should anyone be afraid of such work?
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I am not familiar with what you speak of Bill.
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Thanks, Brian.
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I am talking about opening up the choke on a set of barrels, making a mod/full into a mod/ic.
Has anyone done it, if so, who did it and any issues. I have heard that there are issues in doing it on chrome lined barrels. |
I’ve heard the same thing Jeff, but I don’t remember who said it or even if it was from a reliable source.
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I had Briley open 28Ga. Repro up to Skeet/Skeet They did a good job. Billy
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This is my understanding and what has been explained to me:
Only the 12-ga. Steel Shot Special has chrome lining through the choke area, all other Repros have chrome lining through the bores only -- not through the choke area. Therefore, special reamers are needed only when opening chokes on a SSS -- which are already choked IC/M (typically .006/.011). |
Send the barrels to Briley and be HAPPY....(-: Kenny
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Anyone you consider qualified to open your chokes to whatever you're after is going to tell you an original Parker barrel doesn't rust so why should a chrome lined bore, honed to below the chrome (. 0015" -.0020").
If there was such a thing as a repro bore chomed up to but not including the choke, it had to have been done before they finished the barrel. If you understand ID Plating, you would understand they can't chrome 22" and not the remaining 4". Don't work that way. |
It’s industrial chrome. Bores can be masked so that the last couple of inches are not plated, during the plating process.
If there is chrome plating on your chokes, it will disappear quickly w/standard cutting tools so long as you get “underneath” the chrome from the get go, and that’s simple to do b/c the chrome is thin. Opening the chokes is not an issue, at all. |
I had Mike Orlen open up a set of repro 28" 28ga chokes with no problems. That was several years ago & there hasn't been any issues with them since.
Send them to a good barrel man like Kirk Merrington, Mike Orlen or Briley's & don't worry over something that doesn't need to be worried about. All of us gun guy's have a tenacity to overthink things sometimes. |
Just curious...why not spreaders and then essentially have 4 choke choices?
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I can't tell you the number of Repro owners that have opened their gun's chokes in an effort to make it their dream gun. Many of these are PGCA forum regulars that have justified these alterations by saying it's their gun and they are free to do whatever they want with it. True. But, most also claim they'd never sell the gun while they're living and let their heirs worry about it only to sell it down the road when their-gun-with-the-metal-ground-out-of-it didn't live up to their expectations. I have a couple of shooting buddies that have opened multiple Repros a multiple of times, only to sell each and every one of them. :banghead: There, I feel better. :whistle: |
Well I have had 3
28 in repros opened Up to skeet , I C, When I got the first 28 ga repro, a double trigger, 12 years ago ,i shot skeet With the mod and full Barrels until I got a straight It took a year and I figure 15000 shells. I decided to make it easier On myself and had the Chokes opened up to skeet and IC. I then was shooting Straights one out of 8 rounds. I am not a competition shooter .So for my purpose it was wonderfull. Question?? what do you people do With the Mod and full Barrels, bet most not Used |
Pat, thanks.
Who did you have do the work ? Thanks Jeff |
Briley did first set, they were to install their thin wall chokes, but said
Barrels not thick enough, so for 100 Dollars they opened the chokes to skeet and ic The others were sent to be fitted To Bill Schwartz in Ellijay Ga. I bought one set on auction For 25 dollars no one else Bid on a small estate auction Other set was bought From gun dealer, pawn shop on Guns International , as 2 barrell non matching set for 4200 dollars. They had to be fitted also |
The first 20 ga repro I bought was choke IC/Mod and it shot wickedly tight. Since it was intended to be my go-to grouse gun I had the chokes opened to .004 and .008. Since then I've shot many grouse and doves with it. I also shoot clays with it just prior to grouse season and it will break 35 yard targets well. No regrets. A good move. My grandson would love to get his hands on it but I told him I may be old but am not quite ready to give up following a setter after grouse. I would feel naked without my repro which is affectionately known to he and I as "Sweet Pea". Some day!
Of course an equally good move would have been to purchase a Q1/Q2 gun to begin with. At the time I did not know such a thing existed. Since then I have purchased one so choked. I have patterned both and they perform about the same. |
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I do not really care what present and future collectors think of my decision to open chokes. I do know there are hundreds of grouse in 6 states plus New Brunswick that regretted my decision.
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I opened a 28" repro 28 gauge. It was choked "mod/full." The "full" was 40/1000. I thought it silly tight (still do). I heard Briley said 28 gauges were too thin to put chokes in, so I had a local (skilled) gunsmith open both barrels to skeet/skeet. I am happy.
Sam Ogle |
Same thing happened to
Me, i asked the man Several times, was he sure he could put thinwall chokes in So i sent them with same result Had them open the chokes to skeet and ic, they knew to begin With that they could not put thin wall in |
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