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Bill Vance 11-22-2020 06:21 PM

Coach gun
 
I was gifted a Parker 12 ga coach gun dated to 1901. Good condition considering its age. Very nice figured wood in the butt stock with exceptional checkering on one side with some damage on the other. Someone with little or no skill attempted to recut the damage. The action is nice and tight and locks up smoothly.

Now the really bad news. Someone in the past has neutered the firing mechanism. No firing pins for sure and I don't know what other parts are missing. My question, is it possible to find parts to restore this fine old Parker, if so who can do the work. It can always be an interesting wall hanger if nothing else but would prefer to breath new life into the old boy.

Opinions on its current condition value would also help

Thanks in advance for any and all info.

Bill

wayne goerres 11-22-2020 06:35 PM

No pic's and not enough info to evaluate or value your firearm

Rick Losey 11-22-2020 06:41 PM

by "coach gun" do you mean a hammer shotgun with cut barrels?


clear pictures - measurements and the serial number would help get you information

Bill Vance 11-22-2020 07:50 PM

coach gun
 
Sorry not able to post photos yet.

serial # 100525
#2 frame
V grade
314 barrel weight (Large 3 and small 14)
barrel length 20.75 inches
additional stamp looks like Kj
Vulcan steel, hammerless

I can send photos by email if needed.

Thanks,

Bill

Rick Losey 11-22-2020 07:55 PM

#100525 should be wearing 28" barrels according to the serialization book

value would be limited with cut barrels and missing parts

Brian Dudley 11-22-2020 07:55 PM

Hammerless model.

Are you sure that the firing pins are broken/cut off? They are attached to the hammers. So, when the gun is cocked, you will not see them at the breech. Many people who are not familiar with the mechanics of Parkers mistake a perfectly fine cocked gun for one that has had its “firing pins removed”. They dont get removed, they would have to be cut off from the hammers. Or the hammers removed entirely.

Dry fire the gun with the barrels off and that will tell you or not.

Bill Vance 11-22-2020 08:12 PM

coach gun
 
I guess I am not following the questions. This gun does not have external hammers and opening the action does not have cocking resistance. Safety is in the fire position and cannot be moved. Triggers have slight reward movement. Is there a way to measure the inside of the barrels at the muzzle in order to determine if the barrels have been cut?

Bill

Brian Dudley 11-22-2020 09:11 PM

The barrels have been cut. Records state 28” and they are now 20.75” as you say. Someone lopped 7.25” off of them.

Bill Vance 11-22-2020 10:47 PM

coach gun
 
I get it, barrels have been cut.

Thanks

Bill Murphy 11-23-2020 12:27 PM

If the gun is cocked, you will not get cocking resistence when opening the gun. If the safety cannot be moved when in the "fire" position, it is rusted in place, probably nothing else wrong. You are making assumptions that are not neccesarily true. Squirt some solvent on the safety and into the trigger slots and wait. Move the offending parts with a wooden dowel after soaking for a day or two. The gun should work.


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